gamepolitics: Jack Thompson Watch

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gamepolitics) wrote,
@ 2005-08-12 18:56:00

Jack Thompson Watch

Now that GTA cop-killer Devin Moore has been convicted and sentenced, Jack Thompson stands ready to proceed with the lawsuit on behalf of two of Moore's victims. The Associated Press found Thompson unconcerned about the failure of the "video game defense" in the criminal trial.

"What happened in the criminal case does not cut us off from what we can prove and what we have evidence on," he said. The defendants in the case, Sony, Take-Two, Wal-Mart, and GameStop, have petitioned the court to dismiss the suit.

In other Thompson news, the self-described "anti-game crusader" issued an "ultimatum" today....to Bill Gates. The attorney's message to the world's richest man?

Dear Mr. Gates:

You have fifty-four (54) days in which to stop the release of Bully on XBox.

Govern yourself accordingly.

Sincerely, Jack Thompson

Copies: Senators Clinton, Schumer, Lieberman, Santorum, Brownback
Media
Others

EDITOR'S NOTE: 54 days or what, Jack? Have you got any idea how ridiculous you sound?

Finally, the staunch Republican Thompson's newfound affection for Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) has definitely cooled. Jack sent out a press release this week with the heading "Senator Hillary Rodham Benedict Arnold Clinton."

Thompson bemoans Hillary's upcoming $1,000-a-plate fundraiser sponsored by ESA President Doug Lowenstein. In his message Thompson claims that he "prepped her, through her staff, three weeks ago for the hugely successful GTA: San Andreas news conference that targeted the hidden sexual content in that game." Thompson calls Hillary's fundraiser a "flip-flop."

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	54 days or Jack happens. (Anonymous) 2005-08-12 11:54 pm UTC (link)
	The "chilling thought" of the moment is: if Jack keeps on banging on the same door, who's to say that he won't "get lucky" one of these days? (Reply to this)

LOL
(Anonymous)
2005-08-12 11:54 pm UTC (link)

"What happened in the criminal case does not cut us off from what we can prove and what we have evidence on."

That's right, it doesn't change the zero evidence he had before Moore was convicted. What an incredible waste of taxpayers money that a judge actually has to listen to this guy. Everyone should have access to the courts, but repeat offenders like Jack that try to use the court as a bully pulpit should be disbarred.

As far as what will happen if Bully IS released (And it will) it will be the same thing that will happen if it's not. More bluster, more press releases, more childish insuts, more threats. He's as predictable as he is ineffective.

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	(Anonymous) 2005-08-13 12:04 am UTC (link)
	Cool JT smacked down Bill Gates style. For all you BG haters out there guess who your new best friend is. Oh man this could be fun to watch. (Reply to this)

	Wow (Anonymous) 2005-08-13 12:05 am UTC (link)
	What a Really $\|-\|!Tty threat... Well Mr thompson Fail at life... Does anyone wacth Attack of the show yesterday on G4??? they were making fun of Jack with funny little things saying DO NOT trust ESRB lol (Reply to this)

BBBBOOOORRRRIIIINNNNGGGG!!!
(Anonymous)
2005-08-13 12:47 am UTC (link)

"What happened in the criminal case does not cut us off from what we can prove and what we have evidence on,"

Actually, Jacko, it does. Your case goes before the same judge that oversaw the criminal case. The same judge that threw out any testimony regarding the "video game defense", an offshoot of the "wrestling defense" that didn't work for Lionel Tate. And not to mention that, as a previous poster stated, you have zero evidence and you never did have such evidence.

As far as the other inane statements by this joke of a lawyer goes, Bill Gates probably has his office assistants place Thompson's letters in their proper place: a paper shredder.

And Jack, Hillary Clinton is just like you in that when it comes time to cash in the chips, you're both the very first ones at the pay window. And you should talk about flip-flops, when a few weeks ago, you were falling all over yourself, doing jumping jacks, blowing smoke up Hillary's ass, and making veiled threats about switching party affailations.

== BearDogg-X ==

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	Re: BBBBOOOORRRRIIIINNNNGGGG!!! (Anonymous) 2005-08-13 06:08 am UTC (link)
	Hahaha. I hope he reads everything written about him. Hmm, wait, maybe he gets off to it. It's almost like he creates controversy, loving to rile up gamers as is attested to my his emails. Those who once took him seriously are going to soon see him for what he is. INSANE. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	well evirustheslaye 2005-08-13 12:54 am UTC (link)
	well i guess he cant understand the bad thing of banning a part of CULTURE (Reply to this) (Thread)

	Re: well dopefish57 2005-08-13 02:28 pm UTC (link)
	Really? I think that's precisely what he's getting off on. He's just a completely evil human being who wants to cause as much damage as he can. He's not senile or insane; he's Satan. I bet he looks up to people like Fred Phelps. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2005-08-13 01:46 am UTC (link)
	Eh, guys, you are wasting your breath. Take note from the recent "The Economist" article about video gaming and admire Jack's fine graying hair ;) (Reply to this)

	kungfumegadevil 2005-08-13 03:42 am UTC (link)
	You have fifty-four (54) days in which to stop the release of Bully on XBox. Irony, thy name is Jack. (Reply to this)

	chronovore 2005-08-13 04:55 am UTC (link)
	Bill Gates: "BALLMER!" Steve Ballmer: "Yes, boss?!" Bill Gates: "Release the hounds." (Reply to this) (Thread)

	Hilarious! (Anonymous) 2005-08-13 06:14 am UTC (link)
	If Bill Gates ever did become serious about doing something about our dear friend Mr Wacko, he could have Jack buried so deep in paperwork that he'd be shitting it for the next ten years. Check this out for a laugh. http://ctrlaltdel-online.com/?t=archives&date=2005-08-08 (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Hilarious! chronovore 2005-08-13 12:10 pm UTC (link)
	Suh-weet. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Moe voice Whaaaaa...?! (Anonymous) 2005-08-13 06:29 am UTC (link)
	Jack Thompson taking on Bill Gates? Oh this will be SO fun to watch. I am going to mark my calendar, I can't WAIT to see what Jackie is gonna do on day 55. (Oh course, lets all hope that Gates doesn't do something stupid and stop Xbox production of Bully). (Reply to this)

	toshirotzu 2005-08-13 08:08 am UTC (link)
	Yeah Jack, Bill Gates is going to listen to you of all people. He's only spent the past 15 years beating back the open-source community and anyone who's foolish enough to step in his territory. Jack I think you've been snortin' too much of that Cuban snow down in Miami if you think you can take on a real lawyer. (Reply to this)

	dopefish57 2005-08-13 02:33 pm UTC (link)
	The great thing about Bully is that's it's a completely tasteless game that I'm already opposed to, but now that it's being targetted by Wacko Jacko II, I support it's release. (Reply to this)

sonofabritsch
2005-08-13 03:05 pm UTC (link)

On the ironic note, Bully might be the first of Rockstar's "tasteless" games to cut back to a Teen rating. From the previews I've been reading, it won't contain any blood, gore, or mature sexual things. Just violence, and maybe some language.

It would also be quite humorous to watch Mr. Thompson squashed by the 8 ton gorilla that is the Microsoft legal department. I can easily imagine Mr. Thompson making himself enough of a thorn in Mr. Gates's side to warrant a cease and desist order.

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	I am so going to enjoy this. (Anonymous) 2005-08-13 08:02 pm UTC (link)
	I would have loved to see Jacky take on Scott for "emailing him first" just to see him be disgraced in court. Compared to that, him even thinking of taking on Microsoft gave me a near joyeurysm. Fifty four days or what, Jack? You'll shed your skin on a copy of Bully? Okay, we'll just make sure to have Microsoft reptile-proof the casing. (Reply to this)

.......or else what?
(Anonymous)
2005-08-13 08:55 pm UTC (link)

Isn't this the same guy who complains that gamers send him death threats? Yet he sends Gates a letter that says he has 54 days to stop the release of this game, without mentioning what he plans to do if he doesn't (hey, this Thompson guy is a loony, so you never really know what he means).

Thompson attacks GTA, then the Sims, then Bill Gates. Notice how he goes after the money makers of the gaming world. He hasn't gone after Manhunt the way he goes after GTA (Manhunt, though more violent, didn't make the same amount of money GTA has). He hasn't gone after the Playboy game, but complains about the Sims nude mods (the Playboy game has nudity with no mod needed but hasn't nearly made enough money as the Sims). And of course, Bill Gates is the richest person in the world. Is it just me, or does Thompson just seem to "follow the money"? Money talks, Jackass Thompson walks.

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	Re: .......or else what? (Anonymous) 2005-08-14 12:50 am UTC (link)
	Good point. That "or else" could be taken as a threat of violence and if Bill Gates really wanted to, he could have the FBI arrest Jack for making terroristic threats. == BearDogg-X == (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Awesome. quad9damage 2005-08-13 10:25 pm UTC (link)
	I've made it a daily routine to see if Jacko has said or done anything. This is more than I hoped for. (Reply to this)

SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY!!!

hordelee
2005-08-14 06:39 pm UTC (link)

This Sunday the unstoppable force meets the immovable object! Watch Jack "Loco" Thompson and Bill "Bling Bling" Gates tear each other apart inside a fifty ton STEEL CAGE!! Two men walk in, one man walks out, neither will ever be the same again! You CANNOT afford to miss this ONCE IN A LIFETIME EVENT!! Only on Pay-Per-View!!

Gates: If it's a Superfight you want, it's a Superfight you'll get!

...honestly, I'm surprised no one here posted this first. :)

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	Re: SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY!!! (Anonymous) 2005-08-14 08:08 pm UTC (link)
	two men enter one man leaves, two men enter one man leaves. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	I really want to read this letter... ferrarimanf355 2005-08-14 09:32 pm UTC (link)
	Does anyone have the text of the letter with Jack ripping Hillary to shreds? I need the laugh... :) (Reply to this) (Thread)

Re: I really want to read this letter...

gamepolitics
2005-08-14 10:17 pm UTC (link)

Here ya go...

Yesterday the Rocky Mountain News reported that Senator Hillary Clinton has agreed to appear at a $1000-a-plate fundraiser organized for her by the video game industry, one host of which is none other than ESA President Doug Lowenstein, whose organization has actively facilitated the distribution of sexually explicit and violent video games to children for years. See http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_3987674,00.html

Subsequent news reports today are talking “sell-out” by Senator Clinton after Miami attorney and anti-violent video game activist Jack Thompson prepped her, through her staff, three weeks ago for the hugely successful GTA: San Andreas news conference that targeted the hidden sexual content in that game. The game was then pulled from store shelves across the globe. Inside information made available to Thompson suggests that certain entertainment industry heavyweights have pulled Hillary’s purse strings to remind her that a run for the White House as a Democratic “culture warrior” at the expense of the “entertainment industry” will not be tolerated. This flip-flop opens the door now for social conservative Republicans to claim this issue as their own. For Hillary, it appears it is “game over.”

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Response to Thompson's crybaby attitude
(Anonymous)
2005-08-14 10:59 pm UTC (link)

Inside information made available to Thompson suggests that certain entertainment industry heavyweights have pulled Hillary’s purse strings to remind her that a run for the White House as a Democratic “culture warrior” at the expense of the “entertainment industry” will not be tolerated.

Excuse me for one minute. /Extremely maniacial laughter\ Now then, where were we? Oh yeah, Jack should go back and look at the 2000 election and remember that the Democratic nominees Al Gore and Joe Lieberman, while criticizing the entertainment industry one minute, were accepting campaign contributions from the entertainment industry the next. And attacking the entertainment industry wouldn't be tolerated anyway by several groups, because of the First Amendment. You know, Congress shall pass no law restricting the freedom of speech.

This flip-flop opens the door now for social conservative Republicans to claim this issue as their own.

This dead issue won't help the Republicans either, as there are many Republicans in the entertainment industry as well(i.e. Arnold Schwarzenegger).

== BearDogg-X ==

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Re: Response to Thompson's crybaby attitude
(Anonymous)
2005-08-16 10:05 pm UTC (link)

IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE ELEVENTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT
IN AND FOR MIAMI-DADE COUNTY, FLORIDA

GENERAL JURISDICTION DIVISION

JOHN B. THOMPSON ON BEHALF
OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA,

Plaintiff,

vs.

BEST BUY CO. OF MINNESOTA, INC.,
TARGET CORPORATION, WAL-MART
STORES, INC., GAMESTOP, INC.,
CIRCUIT CITY STORES, INC.,
And TOYS“R”US,

Defendants.
______________________________/

VERIFIED COMPLAINT FOR INJUNCTIVE RELIEF

COMES NOW Plaintiff, on his own behalf and on behalf of the State of Florida as authorized by the below-noted statute, and as co-counsel with undersigned co-counsel, and files this Complaint for Injunctive Relief, and states as follows:
THE PARTIES
1. Plaintiff has been a resident of Miami-Dade County, Florida, continuously since 1976. He is a citizen of the United States, more than eighteen years of age, and he is otherwise sui juris.
2. Defendants are all major retail distributors of video games, authorized to do business in Miami-Dade County, Florida, at various retail stores located therein as well as other such stores not only in Miami-Dade County but throughout the United States.

THE STATUTORY AUTHORITY FOR THIS ACTION
3. Florida Statute 823.01 states, verbatim, as follows:
823.01 Nuisances; penalty.--All nuisances that tend to annoy the community, injure the health of the citizens in general, or corrupt the public morals are misdemeanors of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.083, except that a violation of s. 823.10 is a felony of the third degree.
4. Florida Statute 823.05 states, verbatim, as follows:
823.05 Places declared a nuisance; may be abated and enjoined.--Whoever shall erect, establish, continue, or maintain, own or lease any building, booth, tent or place which tends to annoy the community or injure the health of the community, or become manifestly injurious to the morals or manners of the people as described in s. 823.01, or shall be frequented by the class of persons mentioned in 1s. 856.02, or any house or place of prostitution, assignation, lewdness or place or building where games of chance are engaged in violation of law or any place where any law of the state is violated, shall be deemed guilty of maintaining a nuisance, and the building, erection, place, tent or booth and the furniture, fixtures and contents are declared a nuisance. All such places or persons shall be abated or enjoined as provided in ss. 60.05 and 60.06.

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Re: Response to Thompson's crybaby attitude
(Anonymous)
2005-08-16 10:06 pm UTC (link)

5. Florida Statute 60.05 states, verbatim, as follows:
60.05 Abatement of nuisances.--
(1) When any nuisance as defined in s. 823.05 exists, the Attorney General, state attorney, city attorney, county attorney, or any citizen of the county may sue in the name of the state on his or her relation to enjoin the nuisance, the person or persons maintaining it, and the owner or agent of the building or ground on which the nuisance exists.
(2) The court may allow a temporary injunction without bond on proper proof being made. If it appears by evidence or affidavit that a temporary injunction should issue, the court, pending the determination on final hearing, may enjoin:
(a) The maintaining of a nuisance;
(b) The operating and maintaining of the place or premises where the nuisance is maintained;
(c) The owner or agent of the building or ground upon which the nuisance exists;
(d) The conduct, operation, or maintenance of any business or activity operated or maintained in the building or on the premises in connection with or incident to the maintenance of the nuisance.

The injunction shall specify the activities enjoined and shall not preclude the operation of any lawful business not conducive to the maintenance of the nuisance complained of. At least 3 days' notice in writing shall be given defendant of the time and place of application for the temporary injunction.
(3) Evidence of the general reputation of the alleged nuisance and place is admissible to prove the existence of the nuisance. No action filed by a citizen shall be dismissed unless the court is satisfied that it should be dismissed. Otherwise the action shall continue and the state attorney notified to proceed with it. If the action is brought by a citizen and the court finds that there was no reasonable ground for the action, the costs shall be taxed against the citizen.
(4) On trial if the existence of a nuisance is shown, the court shall issue a permanent injunction and order the costs to be paid by the persons establishing or maintaining the nuisance and shall adjudge that the costs are a lien on all personal property found in the place of the nuisance and on the failure of the property to bring enough to pay the costs, then on the real estate occupied by the nuisance. No lien shall attach to the real estate of any other than said persons unless 5 days' written notice has been given to the owner or his or her agent who fails to begin to abate the nuisance within said 5 days. In a proceeding abating a nuisance pursuant to s. 823.10 or s. 823.05, if a tenant has been convicted of an offense under chapter 893 or s. 796.07, the court may order the tenant to vacate the property within 72 hours if the tenant and owner of the premises are parties to the nuisance abatement action and the order will lead to the abatement of the nuisance.
(5) If the action was brought by the Attorney General, a state attorney, or any other officer or agency of state government; if the court finds either before or after trial that there was no reasonable ground for the action; and if judgment is rendered for the defendant, the costs and reasonable attorney's fees shall be taxed against the state.
THE FACTS
6. The defendants all plan to sell, commencing on October 5, 2005, a violent video game entitled Bully.

7. Bully is a video game that will allow a virtual student to visit virtual violence upon his classmates and teachers in retribution for their bullying and to, in the promotional language from the game’s makers, “settle scores.” Bludgeoning one’s victims with baseball bats is one of the violent methods that is celebrated, glamorized, and legitimized in the game, which is in its entirety a violence simulator and training device.
8. Bully is designed and manufactured by Take-Two/Rockstar of New York City, whose Grand Theft Auto games have been linked by law enforcement authorities to killing incidents around the country. Some of the same violence scenarios in the Grand Theft Auto games will be found in Take-Two/Rockstar’s Bully.

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Re: Response to Thompson's crybaby attitude
(Anonymous)
2005-08-16 10:07 pm UTC (link)

8. Bully is designed and manufactured by Take-Two/Rockstar of New York City, whose Grand Theft Auto games have been linked by law enforcement authorities to killing incidents around the country. Some of the same violence scenarios in the Grand Theft Auto games will be found in Take-Two/Rockstar’s Bully.
9. The Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Secret Service, in conducting their respective threat assessments after the “Columbine” massacre in Littleton, Colorado, in April 1999, found that two common threads of causation in recent school killings up to and including Columbine were as follows: a) the school killers often were victims of bullying who sought to settle scores with their fellow students, and b) the killers were immersed in violent entertainment. Klebold and Harris trained for their Columbine massacre, for example, on the violent game Doom. The undersigned plaintiff predicted “Columbine” eight days before it happened, and he did so on NBC’s Today show, even predicting the role of the game Doom.
10. Scientific studies overwhelmingly prove not only that violent video games are spawning real violence, but these same scientific studies also explain why the neurobiological and other scientific reasons why the copycatting is occurring.
11. In the recent United States Supreme Court case of Roper v. Simmons, for example, Justice Kennedy cited as authoritative in this juvenile death penalty case the very same brain scan studies that explain this copycatting phenomenon.
12. Plaintiff will be able to show the court a) that Bully will be used by school-age children to rehearse varying levels of retributive violence in their schools, and b) that there will be a heightened likelihood that such retributive violence will occur in the Miami-Dade schools as a result.
13. The Surgeon General of the United States is presently spearheading the nation’s anti-school bullying campaign, as school bullying is a serious problem in the United States.
14. In the United Kingdom, where school bullying is treated as a very serious problem, one of the most influential anti-bullying organizations has called for a halt to the anticipated distribution of the game Bully because of the strong likelihood that the game will spawn violence.
15. Evidence will be provided to the court that numerous, specific incidents of school violence before and after “Columbine” have been spawned by violent video game play. The number of such known incidents is disturbing.
16. Plaintiff has, in writing, asked the defendants not to sell Bully when this game is made available to the public on October 5, 2005. The defendants refuse to respond to this plea. Once the game Bully is released to the public, “the horse will be out of the barn” and it will be too late to close the door.
17. Sales by defendants at their various retail stores of Bully will constitute a public nuisance, because the sale of this game will, in the words of the aforementioned statute, “tend to annoy the community or injure the health of the community, or become manifestly injurious to the morals or manners of the people.”
18. As already noted, proof is available to this court that the virtual school violence in Bully will likely lead to increased actual violence in Miami-Dade schools. As to one specific example, every parent of school age children in Miami-Dade County is aware of the murder and near beheading last year of Jamie Gough by his 14-year-old friend and classmate Michael Hernandez, at Southwood Middle School in Miami-Dade County. Local parents, and this community as a whole, however, are not as aware of the role that violent entertainment, specifically violent video games, had in training and rehearsing Michael Hernandez to kill. One Michael Hernandez in Miami-Dade County schools is enough.
RELIEF SOUGHT

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Re: Response to Thompson's crybaby attitude
(Anonymous)
2005-08-16 10:08 pm UTC (link)

10. Scientific studies overwhelmingly prove not only that violent video games are spawning real violence, but these same scientific studies also explain why the neurobiological and other scientific reasons why the copycatting is occurring.
11. In the recent United States Supreme Court case of Roper v. Simmons, for example, Justice Kennedy cited as authoritative in this juvenile death penalty case the very same brain scan studies that explain this copycatting phenomenon.
12. Plaintiff will be able to show the court a) that Bully will be used by school-age children to rehearse varying levels of retributive violence in their schools, and b) that there will be a heightened likelihood that such retributive violence will occur in the Miami-Dade schools as a result.
13. The Surgeon General of the United States is presently spearheading the nation’s anti-school bullying campaign, as school bullying is a serious problem in the United States.
14. In the United Kingdom, where school bullying is treated as a very serious problem, one of the most influential anti-bullying organizations has called for a halt to the anticipated distribution of the game Bully because of the strong likelihood that the game will spawn violence.
15. Evidence will be provided to the court that numerous, specific incidents of school violence before and after “Columbine” have been spawned by violent video game play. The number of such known incidents is disturbing.
16. Plaintiff has, in writing, asked the defendants not to sell Bully when this game is made available to the public on October 5, 2005. The defendants refuse to respond to this plea. Once the game Bully is released to the public, “the horse will be out of the barn” and it will be too late to close the door.
17. Sales by defendants at their various retail stores of Bully will constitute a public nuisance, because the sale of this game will, in the words of the aforementioned statute, “tend to annoy the community or injure the health of the community, or become manifestly injurious to the morals or manners of the people.”

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Re: Response to Thompson's crybaby attitude
(Anonymous)
2005-08-16 10:09 pm UTC (link)

18. As already noted, proof is available to this court that the virtual school violence in Bully will likely lead to increased actual violence in Miami-Dade schools. As to one specific example, every parent of school age children in Miami-Dade County is aware of the murder and near beheading last year of Jamie Gough by his 14-year-old friend and classmate Michael Hernandez, at Southwood Middle School in Miami-Dade County. Local parents, and this community as a whole, however, are not as aware of the role that violent entertainment, specifically violent video games, had in training and rehearsing Michael Hernandez to kill. One Michael Hernandez in Miami-Dade County schools is enough.
RELIEF SOUGHT
19. The sale of Bully at the retail stores of defendants will constitute a public nuisance under Florida law. Florida Statute 823.05 provides that public nuisances such as the defendants’ stores can be and should be abated by injunctive relief.
20. Florida Statute 60.05 provides that a citizen of the county in which such a public nuisance exists can secure first a temporary injunction and then a permanent one by the procedural means set forth therein. Plaintiff intends to do just that.
21. Plaintiff asks this Honorable Court for a Temporary Injunction to stop all defendants from selling Bully. Evidence is available to support such a Temporary Injunction.
22. Subsequent to that, plaintiff will seek and asks this Court for the entry of a Permanent Injunction to stop the sale of this game, and for all other remedies and relief set forth in the aforementioned Florida Statutes.
23. Plaintiff may seek a statewide injunction against all defendants to stop the sale of this game in any of their respective Florida stores.
JURY TRIAL
Plaintiff hereby demands trial by jury of all issues by jury as a matter of right.

_____________________________
JOHN B. THOMPSON
STATE OF FLORIDA )
) ss:
COUNTY OF MIAMI-DADE )

The foregoing instrument was acknowledged before me this _______ day of _____________, 2005, by ________________________, who is personally known to me and who did not take an oath.

________________________________
NOTARY PUBLIC, State of Florida

________________________________
Printed Name

My Commission Expires:

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	Way Off-Topic There, Jack (Anonymous) 2005-08-17 02:11 am UTC (link)
	This isn't even close, as it has nothing to do with my previous statement, which, had you bothered to even read it, compared Hillary's actions now to similiar actions made by Al Gore and Joe Lieberman during the 2000 Presidential election, costing them said election. == BearDogg-X == (Reply to this) (Parent)

Re: Response to Thompson's crybaby attitude
(Anonymous)
2005-08-17 01:15 am UTC (link)

As to what happened in Fayette, Alabama, there was no video game defense interposed in the case. No experts, no defense. You all really need to read the Tuscalaoosa News converage on the trial rather than just reading your own underinformed emails to one another on the subject.

As to Bill Gates and what happens if he doesn't act by the deadline? That's for me to know and for you all to find out. I have a history of winning these battles, which drives you gamers crazy. Short trip.

Best, Jack Thompson

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Re: Response to Thompson's crybaby attitude
(Anonymous)
2005-08-17 02:32 am UTC (link)

Devin Moore's lawyer blaming GTA for his actions that day constitutes a "video game defense", just as Lionel Tate's original attorney tried to blame WWE for a 170-pound 12-year-old boy callously murdering a 48-pound 6-year-old girl.

The reason there were no "experts" regarding that avenue of defense was because the judge would not allow any testimony regarding said defense because there is no absolute proof that video game violence causes real world violence.

I have a history of winning these battles, which drives you gamers crazy.

Winning what exactly? I wouldn't really count GTA:SA as a win since last I heard, that game could be back on store shelves as early as Monday(sans Hot Coffee, of course) and you've lost every court case regarding the industry, which must drive you even crazier.

== BearDogg-X ==

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Re: Response to Thompson's crybaby attitude
(Anonymous)
2005-08-18 04:54 am UTC (link)

Jack... You do realize that you are biting off more than you can chew with Bill Gates, don't you? Are you reaching beyond your means just as a mere publicity stunt or do you really think miracles happen for you? Speculation and assumption doesn't fly in court. Real facts win cases. You should know that. Bully isn't even out on shelves and you are attacking the product. This is parallel to saying that a movie is going to suck before even seeing it. We've all read the previews for the game, but how is that a true representation of the product? For example, movie trailers aired before the feature film in theaters and on television are edited and often times exaggerated to make a movie seem more intense and action-orientated. Thus the movie looks more appealing. What we have seen of Bully is the core features of the product, we are showed just the basic aspects of the game. There are screenshots of what seems to be fights. This is to make the game appealing, why would you ever release a gameplay video of saving and loading a progress file? There is much more to a game than what is portrayed in a trailer or a preview, and more often than not, the aspects of the trailer are stretched and glorified to generate a heightened interest in the product. If you had it your way, you would make the trailer for GTA4 a gameplay video of nothing but killing cops and opening fire upon innocent pedestrians just to make it seem like a "cop killing simulator". Would that be a valid representation of the game? Not a chance. Once again you are attacking a product in which you speculate and assume the contents of the product. My advice to you: Wait until the game is in a finalized state up for purchase at the nearest retailer, buy a copy and play the game, THEN make your accusations. You already made the mistake of taking someone else's word for fact, since you falsely accused The Sims 2 of containing explicit nudity. You admitted to having bad information on that. You should have verified it by actually playing the game. Same deal with Bully; wait until you can play the game before you make your accusations. Address me by name if you reply, the name is Matthew.

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	get over the gta sa hot coffee mod stop fking cryin over it** (Anonymous) 2005-08-15 07:54 pm UTC (link)
	hey stop crying about the gta sa hot coffee mod because it was on the disk and the dumb b*t##d went and made a mod out of that he should be put in jail that dumb s^t and now everyone if afraid to get over the game having a ao rating stop crying (Reply to this)

	lmfao (Anonymous) 2005-08-18 09:05 am UTC (link)
	LMFAO I would like to see him try :) Thanks, giggsey giggsey.com ^_^ (Reply to this)

Jack Thompson is stupid
(Anonymous)
2005-08-18 07:27 pm UTC (link)

What is he trying to prove? Maybe he should the one to be thrown in jail... he's stupid for trying to stop violent games b/c even if he does succeed, it won't be definite b/c we will always have a way to get the games even if they're in a different langauge (that's what mod discs are for.) He's so stupid that he can't even do a threat right. F***ing Jack Thompson! This government is screwed up all together... if they see violent games as a problem, how come killers are allowed to 20 years, but only serve 5 years? The whole system is so screwed.

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