Game Politics ([info]gamepolitics) wrote,
@ 2005-08-10 06:16:00
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Governator Zinged for Conflict of Interest over T3 Game

Being an unstoppable robotic killing machine from the future was the easy part.

For Arnold Schwarzenegger, being Governor of California is no bed of roses. The Governator took plenty of well-deserved heat in June over conflict of interest issues surrounding his multi-million dollar consulting deal with a body building magazine.

As the Sacramento Bee reported, Schwarzenegger vetoed a bill that would have regulated dietary supplements. At the same time he was earning $1 million a year as consulting editor of two publications that rely almost entirely on the very same substances for their ad revenue.

GP has to wonder why Arnold's political career wasn't terminated then and there. True, Schwarzenegger canceled his deal with the magazines but declined to return $1.5 million he received from the publications. The deal itself would be a massive conflict of interest. The fact that he performed official duties that furthered the interests of the people paying him the money smells like something indictable from here.

Now critics have Schwarzenegger trapped in a bizarre Catch-22 over California's pending video game legislation and the former film star's financial interest in a so-so, eight-month old video game, Terminator 3: The Redemption.

The controversy surrounds the pending video game legislation of Assemblyman Leland Yee (D-San Francisco). Yee's bill would prohibit retailers from selling or renting violent or sexually explicit games to minors. The bill is currently stuck in committee, although Yee hopes to push it forward. The Assemblyman plans to hold hearings on issues surrounding hidden content and video game ratings later this month.

Critics see the ethical dilemma for Schwarzenegger as follows: If he vetoes the bill he will be seen as a pawn of the video game and entertainment industry lobbies, which are very powerful in California. If he signs Yee's bill, it will most likely limit sales of "M" rated games, theortetically driving those consumers to buy "T" rated games - like Terminator 3: The Redemption - instead.

In other words, the Guv is damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't.

"If he vetoes or signs the bill, the market would be affected," Robert Fellmeth, a University of San Diego law professor told the Bee. "Sales on his game would go down if he goes one way and would go up if he goes the other. So you have a decision to make, and one or the other is going to affect revenues. You can't get around that."

Fellmeth added that Schwarzenegger signing a bill that boosted sales of T3 and reduced sales of competing games would be "more troublesome" than the muscle magazine deal. Schwarzenegger reportedly receives 20% of the revenue from sales of the video game.

"If I'm in his shoes, I would ask the attorney general for an opinion as to whether or not he should turn this over to the lieutenant governor," Fellmeth said regarding the video game bill.

EDITORIAL OPINION: This is perhaps the weakest argument ever put forward in the video game debate. The entire concept is theoretical at best, and Professor Fellmeth seems to have no grasp on the video game marketplace. First, Assemblyman Yee's bill has to pass in order to be placed before the Governor. Given the difficulty AB450 has seen so far, its ultimate passage is far from a given.

And even if the bill passes and even if the Governor signs it, does Fellmeth really believe that teenage consumers who are turned down in an attempt to buy GTA: San Andreas will say to the store clerk, "Well, uh, how about a copy of that eight-month old Terminator 3: The Redemption instead?"

That's just not going to happen. The majority of video games have a relatively short shelf life, and T3: The Redemption is far from what we might consider a classic game. In fact, you can't even buy a new copy from major online retailer EB Games, although used copies are for sale, for which Schwarzenegger receives no percentage. You can find a new copy at Amazon.com, but it's steeply discounted from its original $39.99 selling price.




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i dont realy care about his affiliation
[info]evirustheslaye
2005-08-10 12:48 pm UTC (link)
hell, if it prevents this anti game movement from going foward im all for it, even though i do not like the idea of a politician being a shill i guess in this case its not as bad as say, oil or drugs, or guns that sorta thing that can realy hurt people either physicaly or econemicly

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[info]poumnteal
2005-08-10 01:55 pm UTC (link)
Okay, now this one is just plain silly. I highly doubt Mr. Fellmeth has touched a joystick since Pac-Man, or even paid attentiion to the industry.

Does he have a public e-mail address? I'd like to send him that EB link, as well as a few reviews of T3.

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Got any numbers to back this up?
(Anonymous)
2005-08-10 03:09 pm UTC (link)
". . . Sales on his game would go down if he goes one way and would go up if he goes the other. . ." -Robert Fellmeth

Based on what data? Can anyone support this argument logically?

It sounds like someone is trying to create a "conflict story" when there isn't one. Perhaps Rob just wants to see his name in the paper.



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Re: Got any numbers to back this up?
[info]gamepolitics
2005-08-10 05:04 pm UTC (link)
I think he is thinking in terms of a typical, commodity-drive model where demand for competing products stays relatively constant.

Video game demand, as we know, tends to peak early and then drop off.

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(Anonymous)
2005-08-10 05:58 pm UTC (link)
Wait a minute, let me get this straight.

If he does A he is seen as a pawn. If he does B his crappy T-rated game might get more sales.

Is this seriously making headlines anywhere? That has to be the stupidist situation I've ever heard of. Option B holds no serious consequence. Whoever thought that yarn up is clearly a genius of spin doctoring. Or American politics is truly pedantic. Or you guys have run out of good scandals.

Also, signing the bill might be good. If the ESA's stats hold, the mature game sales won't falter much. And if they do, then clearly there is an issue of minors buying violent games. Kids should not be playing GTA. You ahve to show an ID to get a beer, you can show an ID to get a game. And people like Mr. Thompson won't have a leg to stand on.

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(Anonymous)
2005-08-10 08:06 pm UTC (link)
That is why I have supported Yee's legislation from Day 1. It makes sense and I believe him when he says that he just wants to limit the sale of very violent games to children. Looking at his bill package online and looking at his constituency in San Francisco, he is not a right wing nut like Thompson.

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[info]gamepolitics
2005-08-10 08:17 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I thought it was a non-starter too.

But it was broadly discussed in the Sacramento Bee, a respected newspaper in California's capital...

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(Anonymous)
2005-08-11 12:34 pm UTC (link)
Are video games different enough to set it apart from current court standards on entertainment liability?

If the newest copy of Grand Theft Auto sells more than 5 million copies and one teenager goes on a killing spree is it the game that is responsible? In the UK, a teenager murdered another teenager last February they did indeed find a copy of the game Manhunt in the assailents bedroom. What’s makes it ironic is that they also found a copy of the game in the victims residence.

Some legislators aim to ban the sale of violent video games to minors. If this happens then it won't be long before they will try to force vendors to display mature-rated games at four feet or higher from the floor or force the concealment of them behind the counter and prohibit advertisement of them.

The issue of whether the games belong in the hands of children should be left up to the parents.
The bottom line is it doesn’t matter what the games do. Whatever influence they may have it is only part of the equation. It matters what the kids do. It matters what the parents do. It’s not the job of video game makers like Rockstar, who trade in entertainment, to help raise someone's kids or be responsible for what those kids do.


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(Anonymous)
2005-08-11 04:24 pm UTC (link)
Exactly why a bill like Yee's is needed--it gives that control to the parents. Only adults will have the purchasing power. Such a bill will do exactly what you are calling for and is a good, commonsense step that should be made.

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(Anonymous)
2005-08-11 07:07 pm UTC (link)
Totally disagree.
This law actually takes away the parent's responsibilty of having to keep an eye out for material THEY may find offensive or unsuitable for their kids and places it on someone elses shoulders under the threat of huge fines and penalties. The government and retailers shouldn't be content-filterers and babysisters for other people's kids.
The fact of the matter is, if your a parent, it's up to YOU, to make sure YOUR kids don't get ahold of material YOU may find offensive or unsuitable for them.
If we make stuff like this law, then we'd essencially have to ban the sale of everything out there to minors as just about everything out there is likely to be offensive or unsuitable in the eyes of some parents. Would you like to get I.D'ed to buy a Coke at the corner store.

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What about books?
(Anonymous)
2005-08-11 07:52 pm UTC (link)
Romance novels can be purchased by anyone of any age, yet they contain graphic descriptions of lewd acts. Should we start age rating those?

How about sports? Boxing and Football are often terribly violent.

I must say that I don't believe in age rating content, content listings are fine as they help consumers know what might be entertaining to them. I would hope that by the time children are trusted with money they are already trusted to know what content they should and should not buy.

-JB

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Big Questions
(Anonymous)
2005-08-11 08:18 pm UTC (link)
Some of the "Big Questions" that we tackle would be fantasic fodder for a forum.
-JB

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Re: What about books?
(Anonymous)
2005-08-11 08:20 pm UTC (link)
I agree. Age rating are IMHO way too arbitrary. It is absolutely preposterous to believe that once a person reaches a certain age they're suddenly and miraculously able to handle the content and withstand the SUPPOSED negative effects of the video game/movie/music CD/Book/ect.

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Re: What about books?
(Anonymous)
2005-08-12 10:45 pm UTC (link)
Very different, as games are interactive and have a reward system for commiting violent acts, thus a learn tool. It is just commonsense to give this tool to parents. So a kid can't buy GTA, big whopp!

This fuss and fight against these commonsense bills only hurt our image.

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Show me the Proof?
(Anonymous)
2005-08-12 11:47 pm UTC (link)
"Very different, as games are interactive"

O.K, show me a study that had participants exposed to non-interactive media and interactive media, and that shows that the interactive media had a greater effect on the perticipants then the non-interactive media had on them.

"and have a reward system for commiting violent acts, thus a learn tool."

This really only applies to very young kids like 5 or 6 year olds, or mentally challanged ones. Once a normal child reaches their double digits they should have a firm grasp on the fact that violence against people in REAL LIFE is flat out wrong, and if they don't, well then there is obviously something wrong with them and they need psychiatric help.

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Re: What about books?
(Anonymous)
2005-08-12 11:48 pm UTC (link)
Boxing and Football are interactive (even more so then gaming) and you are rewarded in them for commiting violence. Obviously you should have to be 18 or older to play those sports.

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Re: What about books?
(Anonymous)
2005-08-15 12:34 pm UTC (link)
I was referring to viewing actually, in many places youth football does exist.

JB

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