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Now we know who was lying, and it wasn't the mod community.
Thanks to Kotaku, GameSpot and an Action Replay cheat disc, it has been proven that the Hot Coffee animations are contained on the PlayStation 2 version of San Andreas, which isn't moddable.
Rockstar ought to be ashamed of themselves.
It's one thing to leave the code in the game, either inadvertently or just to be edgy. It's quite another to try to dissemble for weeks when called on your actions, and it's even worse to try to shift the blame to the mod community who are some of your biggest fans.
And that's not to mention the damage already done to your colleagues in the game industry. Their credibility has taken an underserved hit. You, on the other hand, got your credibility loss the old-fashioned way...
You earned it.
July 16 2005, 02:29:19 UTC 6 years ago
You hit the nail on the head here.
Rockstar should be ashamed of themselves now. It reminds me of the tagline for Aliens Vs. Predator: Whoever wins, we lose. It's moments like this that make me wonder why I even got into video games in the first place...Anonymous
July 16 2005, 02:42:45 UTC 6 years ago
Re: You hit the nail on the head here.
It's almost as if Rockstar is a suicidal company that intentionally wants to bring itself and the games industry down. There's no point for putting stuff like that in. Not even the 1st Amendment can save them this time. Look at it like this, folks: you can spit in the wind, and each time you spit, it might go out a little farther and farther. Sooner or later though, that spit'll land right back in your own face. All I have to say is, Rockstar, here's a tissue to wipe yourself.Anonymous
July 16 2005, 02:51:10 UTC 6 years ago
Re: You hit the nail on the head here.
Actually, the First Amendment still protects Rockstar in this case. From what I understand, the scenes are no different than a sex scene in a R-rated movie.== BearDogg-X ==
July 16 2005, 15:10:24 UTC 6 years ago
Re: You hit the nail on the head here.
Legally, they're covered.From a credibility standpoint, they're screwed.
Anonymous
July 16 2005, 17:11:40 UTC 6 years ago
Re: You hit the nail on the head here.
You keep saying that, but I can't imagine what you're basing that statement on...Anonymous
July 16 2005, 22:12:47 UTC 6 years ago
Re: You hit the nail on the head here.
I'm so confused. Who is Dennis McCauley? Why is he so angry that a bunch of people who make games with the word fuck in it possibly has a scene of animated images dry-humping?Anonymous
July 16 2005, 03:16:17 UTC 6 years ago
8===D~~~
rock the fuck on rockstar. i want to see more sex, violence, and drugs just so i can see these politicians dickheads pissed off. if the ESRB rating says M then technically only 17+-year-olds should be able to see it anyway. just like a rated R or NC-17 movie. the only thing that disappoints me about this 'hot coffee mod' is the fact that ive already sold my GTA:SA and cant experience it first hand. holla.July 16 2005, 15:11:10 UTC 6 years ago
Re: 8===D~~~
Oh, Hillary...You're such a card.
:-)
Anonymous
July 16 2005, 03:18:34 UTC 6 years ago
You missed the point
It's clear that you have no idea what your talking about.The issue is that even though the code was produced by rockstar the fact is that it was disabled so the ERSB cannot change the rating as to access the "Hot Coffee mod you must alter your installation.
So if "Hot Coffee" is and END USER MODIFICATION what right does the ERSB have or anyone else for that matter have to complain.
None
If you want a minigame of sex it would have been created anyway like the nude prositute mods for GTA III or GTA Vice City.
Oh and the fact that an action reply disc can be used on the PS2 version of the game proves that the PS2 version can be modded so the opening statement is contradictory.
It's because of people like you Rockstar had to say if was done by the modding community that and the fact is american's have some of the wierdest moral outrage's possible.
You complain about "Hot Coffee" yet not about the mass murder's you complete while playing the game.
This further prove to the world that most american's have no idea and complain about the stupidest thing's possible
The only credibility was lost by YOU and those who Reported it and are complaining about it
You Definity earn THAT
Anonymous
July 16 2005, 04:06:14 UTC 6 years ago
Re: You missed the point
The irony of your subject line is astounding.If you actually bothered to RTFA on Kotaku and gamespot you would have seen that the Hot Coffee *MODE* was unlocked on the PS2 without any mods, but by simply entering cheat codes.
Anonymous
July 16 2005, 14:55:16 UTC 6 years ago
Re: You missed the point
Actually, YOU missed the point as well. "Hot Coffee" mode on the PS2 required the use of an Action Replay, NOT and un modified PS2.Anonymous
July 17 2005, 02:34:07 UTC 6 years ago
Re: You missed the point
YOU missed the point.Action Reply and Gamesharks CAN ONLY enable "cheat codes" already in the game code. The game code CANNOT be modified.
July 18 2005, 15:10:22 UTC 6 years ago
Re: You missed the point
You BOTH missed the point, now shut up before I turn this car around!December 16 2005, 21:48:20 UTC 6 years ago
Re: You missed the point
Incorrect! Action Replay and Gamesharks work by insertion / replacement of assembly code and such at read time. If you had enough code entry space and enough time, you could turn GTA into Gauntlet Legends; it's infeasible but it is possible. It is in fact _Modification_ of code and/or memory addresses at read time; Try random codes with those tools and you'll usually encounter crashes or corrupted graphics memory because of this. Built in "cheat codes" dont do that. Modification of the program does.Anonymous
July 16 2005, 06:33:09 UTC 6 years ago
It now hits the fan
It's ironic that the picture you have shows the character called "The Truth" (you did that on purpose, didn't you?). As a GTA lover, and diehard Rockstar supporter through all their controversy, there is no way I can spin this in their favor. The only way they can run any shred of damage control is to pull the game off shelves, take the code out, and rerelease it without it, and issue a warning about existing copies. This could be devastating all around. When legislators were just whining about violence, there was nothing anyone can do. But nothing galvanizes a censorship movement like sex. *cough*JanetJackson*cough* It would be bad enough for Rockstar, but now the entire industry is going to be under the microscope, and calls for these games to be ruled obscene at least as applies to children at best, and a modern-day Hays Production Code at worst, are not far off.July 16 2005, 15:12:32 UTC 6 years ago
Re: It now hits the fan
The Truth, yes.And he looks sad, which is how we all feel about this situation, I'm sure.
Anonymous
July 16 2005, 22:17:43 UTC 6 years ago
Re: It now hits the fan
You would have no visits but for Rockstar. Hilary would have had no headlines but for Rockstar. We would not have Grand THeft Auto and Midnight Club but for Rockstar. What have you and Hilary given us?Anonymous
July 16 2005, 17:12:58 UTC 6 years ago
Re: It now hits the fan
There isn't much damage to control. There's no outcry outside of a few diehard loudmouths. It's the "scandal" no one cares about.Anonymous
July 17 2005, 00:00:02 UTC 6 years ago
Re: It now hits the fan
Now looking at the content itself, it isn't really anything that bad, just dry-humping, so it may not be ruled obscene or pornographic or earn it an AO. The problem, though, is that Rockstar lied to the ESRB and the public, dragging down not only their credibility, but that of the industry as a whole.December 13 2005, 17:19:38 UTC 6 years ago
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