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Ohio High School Encourages Troubled Kids to Take Up Games

Typically, video games are blamed for distracting kids from their studies. But in Dayton, Ohio, a new high school encourages teens to immerse themselves in games.

As reported by the Dayton Daily News, 80 academically troubled kids have been accepted into an innovative program which will focus largely on the elements of video game creation, from concept to finished product.

"That's what they love," said Chief Academic Officer David White of the Dayton Technology Design High School. "That's the hook."

About 80% of the new school's 100 students are enrolled in a "virtual game" track. The idea is to complete a student-made game within three years.

"When we first started talking about the video game, people laughed at us," Superintendent Percy Mack told the Daily News. "But they laughed at the Wright brothers, too."

The new tech school is designed for 16- to 22-year-olds and will cover traditional subjects as well as video game design.

"This is not just a game, Mack added. "It's about educating students and giving them something they can do after they graduate."

GP: A shout-out to GP reader Keaton2008 for the heads-up on this one...




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[info]xwaix
2006-07-25 12:18 pm UTC (link)
This is interesting stuff. Who says games are corrupting our youth? =P

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brainage
[info]nitkin1
2006-07-25 05:26 pm UTC (link)
i play both counterstrike and brain age.

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[info]silver_derstin
2006-07-25 12:26 pm UTC (link)
Let's get more people with little talent and/or competence in an oversaturated market, please. While I applaud the initiative, I will mock the end result.

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[info]jamesweis
2006-07-25 06:33 pm UTC (link)
I don't think that I can agree with you. Just because they are developing a game does not mean that they will ultimately endeavor to create them as a profession later in life. The program can be used to develop more positive influences in their younger years and has value specifically based upon that.

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(no subject) - [info]xlorep_darkhelm, 2006-07-25 07:39 pm UTC

[info]gatz111085
2006-07-25 01:12 pm UTC (link)
Brilliant Idea, except there is one problem with the concept. It takes place in a highschool. That kind of class could go far and I wish they had it at my highschool back in the day, and there is only one problem that could go wrong with it. The problem I could see happening is that it takes place in a highschool. Highschool is filled with people that simply don't give a shit about thier school work, and they far outnumber the people that do. So if the class gets the reputation for an easy A you'll end up getting the little fucking douchebags in there that ruin the class.

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[info]chickosaurusrex
2006-07-25 05:33 pm UTC (link)
The problem I could see happening is that it takes place in a highschool. Highschool is filled with people that simply don't give a shit about thier school work, and they far outnumber the people that do.

Well, that's life all over, isn't it? Kids don't magically become apathetic the second they become freshmen; they just are, or aren't, interested in certain classes. Hell, in my college creative writing class last year there were plenty of people who didn't really seem to care, and that was college. They had to pay for that!

In any case, giving these kids the opportunity to do create something, even if by and large most of 'em don't go on to become the next Will Wright, is fantastic. And isn't giving kids the chance to better themselves what school is all about?

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[info]i_iv_v
2006-07-25 01:30 pm UTC (link)
LOL! 3 years to make a game? Try doing it in 3 weeks!

Sorry, I just had to make a game for class in less than 3 weeks. Then again, I'm also going to an accelerated school (Full Sail) for this kinda thing.

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Wow
[info]mrg0ne
2006-07-25 02:54 pm UTC (link)
that blond chick is pretty hot.

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Re: Wow
[info]thefremen
2006-07-25 05:37 pm UTC (link)
She's ok, but could use some more color in her skin.

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[info]terminator44
2006-07-25 02:56 pm UTC (link)
Awesome that another school is using interative entertainment for education rather than a scapegoat.

Double awesome that it's in my home state.:)

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[info]kincyr
2006-07-25 05:57 pm UTC (link)
it's also the same state he-who-shall-not-be-mentioned grew up in

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(no subject) - [info]terminator44, 2006-07-25 07:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]grls_r_gamers_2, 2006-07-25 08:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kincyr, 2006-07-25 09:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hayabusa75, 2006-07-26 08:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kincyr, 2006-07-25 09:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]terminator44, 2006-07-25 10:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]muhammed, 2006-07-26 12:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]terminator44, 2006-07-26 02:03 pm UTC
Awesome
[info]skemodan
2006-07-25 03:14 pm UTC (link)
It's called forwarding aggression. Let the kids focus all that aggressive energy into something productive and introduce them to a new field of innovation and expression.

I wish more schools would attempt programs like this. If not for video game development, then maybe other fields as well. High Schools don't expose kids to career tracks nearly enough in this country. So many students go off to college and are undecided until the very last minute and end up changing their majors several times because no one ever exposed them to the millions of options for exciting careers in fields like...well..game design for instance.

Bonus points to Dayton, Ohio. At least someone is thinking about the children...*cough*

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[info]udx
2006-07-25 03:19 pm UTC (link)
Man, with stuff like that, I wish I was still in High School. That would be fun to take up.

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[info]raynesftl
2006-07-25 03:30 pm UTC (link)
"When we first started talking about the video game, people laughed at us,"

WTF? So a school finds something that actually keeps troubled kids in school? Something that actually could become a real career for the and people laugh. Americans have such a shitty attitude concerning anything that isn't what was considered educational 50 years ago.

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[info]terminator44
2006-07-25 07:26 pm UTC (link)
Well, we have a shitty attitude towards ANYTHING that wasn't normal in the 50s, because everybody regards it as a time of innocence.

"Which it was (innocent). If you consider spraying civil rights activists with fire hoses and killing Koreans to be 'innocence'."-Adam Sessler

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[info]penpaperprint
2006-07-25 03:32 pm UTC (link)
w00t for the first time... GAMES ARE NOT THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL!!! Take that Hillary C. and Robert Parungao. HAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAAHHA Oh i bet the sounding of that on the news stand gave them a headache.

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jeez
[info]xxriotsparkxx
2006-07-25 04:21 pm UTC (link)
Wish they had this in my high school, but oh well im currently going for my associates in Animation now. How is full Sail btw.

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[info]i_love_catgirls
2006-07-25 04:23 pm UTC (link)
Great, finally some good news about Ohio's schools. :D *is from Ohio, and just graduated*

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[info]terminator44
2006-07-25 07:28 pm UTC (link)
This news is actually making me look forward to my senior year, if they decide to implement the courses in my school. Mine is a small county school, however, so I'm not holding my breath.

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[info]jargon_john
2006-07-25 05:15 pm UTC (link)
3 years to make a game?

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My school only gives us 3 months...

...

I went to the wrong college...and high school...Shit...

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[info]rowan_greyson
2006-07-25 08:44 pm UTC (link)
Well considering the target students, they're likely operating under the assumption that they don't have any programming experience. When looked at it from that point of view, 3 years is pretty reasonable.

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(no subject) - [info]hayabusa75, 2006-07-25 08:53 pm UTC
Well....
[info]theonereason
2006-07-25 07:12 pm UTC (link)
This will problably be good news in the end, but if I hear "Academically Challenged" combined with lessons in Video game development, I can't help but imagine a large number of drop outs who have no real interest in the games industry, not trying to be creative and making another FPS clone. More to worry is how this might enforce the stereotype that Games Development isn't work.

So many games produced each year wind up a complete waste of everyones time simply because the devs wanted to mould a game around something they enjoyed themselves, but without the attempt to innovate anything themselves.

Im problably wrong, but this looks to me like it could do more harm than good in the end.

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[info]thefremen
2006-07-25 07:43 pm UTC (link)
It's odd that this story come out now since Schoooooooool's Out For Summer! Schooooooooooool's out for ever! School's blown to pieces!

This story reminds me of a story I saw about a class in LA where they taught the students Robitics. I personally approve of this class more though, since it does not go directly against the teachings of the Orange Catholic bible. I realize that one can't expect religion to be taught in public schools but at least they could try to be senstitive to the beliefs of some of the students.

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[info]terminator44
2006-07-25 10:49 pm UTC (link)
Robotics is prohibited in LA's bible?

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(no subject) - [info]thefremen, 2006-07-26 12:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]the1jeffy, 2006-07-26 03:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gynvan, 2006-07-26 03:55 am UTC
About the school
[info]orinsmith
2006-07-25 07:50 pm UTC (link)
Living in Dayton, Ohio and working at a local high school, it seems odd to me that they only mention "academically troubled" as a description of these students.

Although I am not aware of the background or specific situations of the majority of the students attending this school, I do know about one of them; a student transferring there from the high school I work at.

While the description of academically troubled may be applicable, it's certainly not for lack of intelligence, but more apathy. This is a student with deep interest and knowledge in both computers and programming, who was able to "hack" into the district's servers at a young age (pre-high school). To put it simply, the only reason this student is troubled is because he's too busy being interested in computers to pay attention through dull history and english classes.

So, while I'm not sure if many of the kids will have experience when it comes to the many parts of the development of a video game, I'm sure that at least some of them will be willing to learn.



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Re: About the school
[info]terminator44
2006-07-25 10:51 pm UTC (link)
Yes, lack of initiative is the biggest problem in high schools. Hopefully programs like this will get students interested again.

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[info]sir_bissel
2006-07-25 08:07 pm UTC (link)
(somewhat unrelated, although since ohio is right next to it...)

How long do you think before this is linked to video games? (specially since a 17 year old was questioned...)

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[info]terminator44
2006-07-25 10:53 pm UTC (link)
If a backlash against video games didn't occur after a highway shooter in our state was caught, I highly doubt our neighboring state will start one.

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(no subject) - [info]gamepolitics, 2006-07-25 10:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]grls_r_gamers_2, 2006-07-25 11:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]gamepolitics, 2006-07-25 11:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]beardoggx, 2006-07-25 11:27 pm UTC
Toledo Blade story - [info]gamepolitics, 2006-07-25 11:30 pm UTC
Re: Toledo Blade story - [info]mcfly0612, 2006-07-26 02:43 am UTC
Re: Louisville Courier-Journal story shows Indiana sniper taking responsibility for own actions - [info]beardoggx, 2006-07-26 03:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]terminator44, 2006-07-26 01:55 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]ianc14, 2006-07-26 11:11 am UTC
High Schools still have difficulty teaching web design ...
[info]verbinator
2006-07-25 11:22 pm UTC (link)
Considering that high schools have yet to figure out how to properly or efficiently teach simple computer-related classes, I seriously doubt that this program will be much more than an exercise in wasted time spread out over three years.

Even if they can make a go of it, I wouldn't see it preparing students to enter the game development job market.

If I laugh at all, I'm laughing at the idea of "academically troubled" having the level of attention to detail necessary to make game content, the maturity necessary to stick with projects that are hard, and the technical savvy to learn to use complicated tools from potentially clueless high school teachers.

Playing games and making games are not the same thing ... unless you are a photogenic model in a Westwood College TV ad.

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Re: High Schools still have difficulty teaching web design ...
[info]jamesweis
2006-07-26 02:08 am UTC (link)
"Academically Troubled" students can be "troubled" for a variety of reasons. These reasons don't necessarily have to include a lack of potential or aptitude.

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Re: High Schools still have difficulty teaching web design ... - [info]verbinator, 2006-07-26 12:25 pm UTC
Re: High Schools still have difficulty teaching web design ... - [info]jamesweis, 2006-07-26 01:59 pm UTC
Re: High Schools still have difficulty teaching web design ... - [info]monte924, 2006-07-26 03:14 am UTC
Re: High Schools still have difficulty teaching web design ... - [info]jamesweis, 2006-07-26 01:45 pm UTC
Too true. - [info]lampdevil, 2006-07-26 09:18 pm UTC

[info]shiegie
2006-07-25 11:36 pm UTC (link)
Not an entirely new idea. My college (www.digipen.edu) offer summer workshops both on their campus and hosted at various sites throughout the country and world. The goal is to get students who hate math and science excited about it by showing them how it goes into creating a game.

http://workshops.digipen.edu/

Provides me with a good summer job too. DigiPen hires its students to teach the classes.

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[info]gabrielcelesta
2006-07-26 12:29 am UTC (link)
All I can say about this is...

Where was this kind of stuff during MY high-shcool and college years? (*pouting*)

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Just as a heads up...
[info]boffo97
2006-07-27 07:16 am UTC (link)
This story got linked to by G4's The Feed blog...

http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/TheFeed/post/622744/Troubled_Kids_To_Study_Game_Design_In_Ohio.html

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Re: Just as a heads up...
[info]gamepolitics
2006-07-27 10:31 am UTC (link)
sweet...

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[info]ambi3887
2006-07-30 01:42 am UTC (link)
This is a bit of a side comment, but doesn't the "kid" in that picture look a whole lot like COLIN FARRELL. Holy moly he's a troubled child!

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