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Second Life Publisher Sued Ove Virtual Land

How real is your virtual world? Do you have any rights to the virtual property you've purchased, whether it be items, gold, or land?

One of the most contested trends in multiplayer online gaming is the ability to trade real-world cash for online goods. But do you really own those goods, which don't exist as much more than digital information?

Attorney Marc Bragg seems to think so, which is why he's suing Linden Labs, creators of Second Life, a popular Massively-multiplayer Online (MMO) game. Bragg alleges that Linden has denied him access to his virtual assets. The attorney has posted a press release about the suit on his website.

Bragg v. Linden Research, was filed May 1 in a local district court in West Chester, Pennsylvania. According to Wired, Bragg filed suit after Linden cut off access to his virtual estate (his "sims" or virtual land plots), which includes several nightclubs, and denied him access to his supply of Linden dollars (virtual cash), worth about USD $3,200.

The incident started when Bragg gained access to several sim auctions, by entering in URL's other than those listed on the auction site. This allowed him to access auctions for land not yet technically up for bid, which had no minimums and few bidders. Sim plots usually start at 1,000 Lindens, but Bragg managed to get several for 300. Following this, Linden Labs froze his account, presumably for being in violation of their Terms of Service (ToS).

Bragg however, argues that since the auctions were allowed to finish, they should be accepted.

"If they're not running their auctions properly to begin with ...
the onus is on them... If I take a sim and price it at 1 or 10 when I want 100,000, and it sells, (Linden's) answer is tough luck, you sold it and it's your fault."


Freelance journalist and Second Life blogger Tony Walsh noted that this case could set precedent, and will be keenly watched by business, legal, academic interests and virtual-world residents alike.

Several Second Life residents feel that because Bragg used an exploit to essentially cheat the system, he doesn't have a leg to stand on. Others, such as Joshua Fairfield, a professor at Indiana University Law School and a specialist on the law and economics of virtual property, think that the issue isn't even about a virtual property dispute:

"As I understand how Second Life is set up, land is (the equivalent
of) bandwidth. They're selling bandwidth, no different than AT&T selling the bandwidth that allows me to talk to you... This (suit) is more like airline mistake cases, where people snap up cheap tickets and try to keep the tickets."


While Bragg's supply of Lindens is only worth USD $3,200, he is asking for $8,000 in damages.

CM: This is certainly a tricky issue, but a lawsuit doesn't seem the best way to settle it. Although the ToS does specify that anything Bragg creates in-game is his own property, the issue here is more whether Bragg used less-than-legal methods to acquire said property, or whether Linden Labs is pulling a double standard with regards to bad sales.

The fact that Linden merely froze his account likely means that they are looking into the issue, and deciding whether to close him down completely, or just cancel the land purchase. So far Linden Labs hasn't commented publicly.

-Reporting from his local real estate office, where he's hoping to score some cheap land before anyone notices, GP Correspondent Colin "Jabrwock" McInnes

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There is no case here
[info]enmitywithin
2006-05-27 08:46 pm UTC (link)
Their world, their ToS, their rules.

hmmm, cheap tickets.... aren't those people called scalpers and isn't that either undesirable/illegal?

and though this guy claims "it is no different" then you wouldn't mind getting off the game and going to a normal chat room now would you?

I think that the sheer fact that it was only frozen and he's trying for 8k proves this guy is a loser and should be ignored.

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[info]enterthewumpus
2006-05-27 10:10 pm UTC (link)
hmm, this could turn out rather interesting.. can't you transfer your second life money into real money? i thought i read that somewhere....

in which case he is out 3200 dollers or so.

on the other hand, he was cheating, and i would assume that the TOS make it clear what is and isn't cheating, so that is his problem...

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[info]traiklin
2006-05-27 11:12 pm UTC (link)
Well it's just like he said, If you price something at one point and wanted a lot more for it but sold it for dirt cheap they just tell you to bad and move on.

How is this any different? It clearly says right up there that other people were accessing the same auctions he was. Now if it was system admins and what not then that shows a laps in security plain and simple.

If they didn't want people to access cheap auctions like that then they should of had better protections in place so it didn't happen, he stumbled onto an open section of the game, He didn't cheat (unless they can prove he somehow modified the game to let him show up as a very higher up person) he exploited a loophole in their system, just like anyone can do.

I'm sure LJ went through the same problem early on where stuff wouldn't work right and people would find loopholes in the system.

He has every right to sue cause they only changed the rules after he exploited their mistake. Granted $8,000 is over kill but it should be $3200 at the very least, at most I would say $4000 (cause remember this stuff takes time).

If that is how second life plays out I am glad I never bothered with it. Nothing like spending a huge load of money on building something up only to have someone get a pissy attitued and you lose everything.

And yes the money is tied to your credit card, so you can spend real money in game or withdraw money from the game, one guy in australia )I think) got about $150,000 for selling land he had built up, imagine how he would of felt if LL walked up and just said "Nope, can't have that much you can only have $3,000 of that at most, it's against our TOS you agreed to even though there was nothing set till you did this".

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[info]ash2dust82
2006-05-28 12:33 am UTC (link)
As I've been lead to understand, and correct me if I'm wrong, but Linden Labs has set up their Second Life currency in such a way that there is a definite and deliberate Linden to Dollar conversion so you can buy Lindens from them with real dollars and sell them for real dollars, making everything in the game equate to a real dollar value, as opposed to something like, say, WoW where the gold is essentially valueless as far as the administration is concerned.

That could go a long way in deciding this case.

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[info]amisplacedphile
2006-05-28 01:42 am UTC (link)
His argument is "they weren't that secure, I cheated, so I win."

I'm going to go steal some stuff, and if I make it outside before they catch me, say "I win." If they call the police I'm suing for twice what it's worth, because I win.

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[info]jythie
2006-05-30 02:18 pm UTC (link)
Nicely put ^_^

One of the arguments I am seeing about this is just a rehash of the old 'is it cracking if all the person did was manually change a URL?' debate... and you just summed that up nicely ^_^

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[info]thelandofsmeg
2006-06-04 11:26 pm UTC (link)
The secret back door I found to the shop was unlocked, so taking the Hi-Fi wasn't sitting in the window wasn't wrong and it's mine.

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Oi Vey
[info]riverrat85
2006-06-03 08:54 am UTC (link)
I got wrapped up in Second Life way-to-much. Not for the usual reasons either... No. General rule of thumb, I avoid MMOs like the plague. I started playing because of someone I was dating IRL.

Broke up with her because she got way too involved in it. Way too involved. But during the year or so I spent there it was full of drama and more BS.. end story short? Pong oWnz.

Can't say I'm suprised someone finally sued LL over the 'cyber' property.

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