Game Politics ([info]gamepolitics) wrote,
@ 2006-04-26 06:27:00
Previous Entry  Add to memories!  Tell a Friend!  Next Entry
Entry tags:coin-ops, craig anderson, des moines, grass roots, tekken 5, tracy codel

Mom's Protest Forces Theater to Drop Violent Coin-op Games

Never underestimate the power of a Mom.

As reported by the Des Moines Register, a mother of two young children led a campaign which forced the removal of violent games from the arcade room of a local movie theater. The games weren't specified by name, but the news report mentions "zombies being blown to bloody bits," so perhaps House of the Dead...

Tracy Codel, the mother of 4- and 6-year-old boys, began the protest after discovering the violent games at the Century Theater in Jordan Creek Town Center. In a letter and a follow-up petition drive, she urged theater owners to remove the games and vowed not to see another film there until they had done so.

Although the coin-op machines had the appropriate warning labels, Codel did not see this as an effective way to prevent underage kids from playing.

"Even if I chose for my child not to play that game, the sounds and visuals were still present," she said. "This is like showing an R-rated movie to my kids if they're in there."

The Register article also quotes Iowa State professor Craig Anderson on game violence, despite the fact that his research has failed to impress federal court judges in recent constitutional cases over Michigan and Illinois' video game laws.

Tekken 5 remains following Codel's protest, but all other games in the arcade are rated as "suitable for all ages."

GP: Props to reader Mark b. for the heads-up on this one...




Page 1 of 2
<<[1] [2] >>

(Post a new comment)

And then they celebrated by taking the kids to see Silent Hill...
[info]duncan_922
2006-04-26 12:26 pm UTC (link)
It doesn't really say, but it's more than likely that this is so. Soccer moms today and their self-righteousness....

(Reply to this)


[info]dividebydesu
2006-04-26 12:28 pm UTC (link)
So what would she say about HotD or similar in an arcade? Or is that fair territory compared to a movie theater?

I'm surprised they gave in.

(Reply to this)

Sounds like a whiny mother to me.
[info]enmitywithin
2006-04-26 12:38 pm UTC (link)
This is like showing an R-rated movie to my kids if they're in there."

really? I'm pretty sure that your kids could easily get into an R-Rated movie there too.

Not to mention that NOT ONLY LITTLE KIDS AGED 5-12 PLAY GAMES IN ARCADES!

(Reply to this) (Thread)

Re: Sounds like a whiny mother to me.
[info]mnementh2230
2006-04-26 02:14 pm UTC (link)
Not quite true - there are a few games that I enjoy in arcades these days, such as "Silent Scope", a sniper simulator that really does require some steady hands - not to the extent that a real rifle does, however, because of the swivel mount the rifle is affixed to.

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

Re: Sounds like a whiny mother to me. - [info]sabin_blitz, 2006-04-26 03:47 pm UTC

[info]seifd
2006-04-26 12:41 pm UTC (link)
I wish I could've been there when she threatened not to come see anymore movies. I would have loved to say, "Oh no! I'm incoherent with fear! Everyone comes to our theater to listen to little kids talk during the movie or cry because they don't get enough candy at the concession stand! We'll go out of business for sure! I'll just go toss these arcade machines in a dumpster!"

(Reply to this) (Thread)


[info]catch_33
2006-04-26 08:29 pm UTC (link)
I'm guessing her kind must be the majority of movie-goers in that region. That's about the only logical explanation for the owners caving in like that.

(Reply to this) (Parent)

(no subject) - [info]father_time89, 2006-04-26 10:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jerrydavid, 2006-04-27 01:08 am UTC
Soccer Moms
[info]rayzak2000
2006-04-26 12:55 pm UTC (link)
Why do Soccer Moms think the world is designed to please them? It's almost like they are over parenting to make up for the fact that they are divorced, crazy, and spend more a month in gas for their SUV then college funds.

(Reply to this) (Thread)

Re: Soccer Moms
[info]elricbrother3
2006-04-26 07:19 pm UTC (link)
Ot but have you ever noticed that the people who complain about gass prices are also the ones who drive the big SUVs and Hummers?

(Reply to this) (Parent)


[info]rsteinke
2006-04-26 01:11 pm UTC (link)
Hrm. Yaknow, I think the bubblegum machines where you put two quarters in and you get a random fist size hunk of gum is rigged so you don't get the color you want until you put like $20 in. Do I contact Jack directly for legal advice or does he have a secretary I should talk to about this? Caus, yaknow, I think it leads to gambling and they should be banned from public places like movie theaters. And the makers should be sued for my emotional distress.

(Reply to this) (Thread)


[info]howdoyouplead
2006-04-26 06:40 pm UTC (link)
Also, they should ban all unhealthy food at the concession stand. I could accidentally consume some!

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]catch_33, 2006-04-26 08:31 pm UTC

[info]kurisu7885
2006-04-26 01:19 pm UTC (link)
IF I were the theatre owner I would have just said "Oh well, hope you have a DVD player." Seriously, why cave into pressure when one nutjob doesn't get her way? ANd I've seen little kids playing House of the dead at Gameworks, and i nalot of cases I've seen parentswith kids not lettign them play the more violent and scary games like Terraburt, Hosue fo the Dead, Jurassic Park(yes the game can be scary) or War Final Assault, a VEEEERY bloody arcade game by any standards. I seriously wanan hear a stroy abotu the games in a Gameworks being complained about, they woudln't be able to to shit as that's al lowned by Sega.

(Reply to this) (Thread)


[info]kurisu7885
2006-04-26 01:21 pm UTC (link)
Man, Terraburst, what an awesome game, and Offroad Thunder, so amny awesoem arcade games. Gameworks is about all that's left now, course, we may not have any arcades should this keep up.

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]anticron, 2006-04-26 01:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kurisu7885, 2006-04-26 01:39 pm UTC
Ohnoes it's another rant from the dragon! - [info]lomdr, 2006-04-26 02:31 pm UTC
Re: Ohnoes it's another rant from the dragon! - [info]kurisu7885, 2006-04-26 02:35 pm UTC
Re: Ohnoes it's another rant from the dragon! - [info]kurisu7885, 2006-04-26 02:40 pm UTC
Re: Ohnoes it's another rant from the dragon! - [info]premo_maggot, 2006-04-26 06:49 pm UTC
She reminds me...
[info]toxic_offender
2006-04-26 01:23 pm UTC (link)
of Kyle's mom on "South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut".


"WH-WH-WH-WHAAAAAT?!?"

(Reply to this) (Thread)

Re: She reminds me...
[info]kurisu7885
2006-04-26 01:25 pm UTC (link)
The "Blame Canada" song is about the perfect thign right now, catchy, but true.

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

Re: She reminds me... - [info]bustermanzero, 2006-04-26 03:43 pm UTC
Re: She reminds me... - [info]ace_ofspade, 2006-04-26 05:42 pm UTC
Re: She reminds me... - [info]misstigerpounce, 2006-04-26 07:13 pm UTC
So let me get this straight:
[info]startropics
2006-04-26 01:29 pm UTC (link)
She lets her 4 and 6-year old kids go into a crowded public arcade unsupervised?

How fucking dumb is this woman? Hasn't she ever watched Special Victims Unit, or Terminator 2? That's where crazy kid-abducting peoples hang out!

If I go to my local cinema and the only thing there is Barbie Horse Adventures, I'm going to joke the bitch.

(Reply to this) (Thread)

Re: So let me get this straight:
[info]kurisu7885
2006-04-26 01:30 pm UTC (link)
Then practice your choking grip dude.

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

Re: So let me get this straight: - [info]startropics, 2006-04-26 01:32 pm UTC
Re: So let me get this straight: - [info]kurisu7885, 2006-04-26 01:34 pm UTC
Re: So let me get this straight: - [info]thefremen, 2006-04-26 07:31 pm UTC
Re: So let me get this straight: - [info]kurisu7885, 2006-04-28 12:44 pm UTC
Re: So let me get this straight: - [info]premo_maggot, 2006-04-26 06:51 pm UTC
Re: So let me get this straight: - [info]lomdr, 2006-04-26 02:11 pm UTC
Re: So let me get this straight: - [info]poet_ninja, 2006-04-26 03:47 pm UTC
Re: So let me get this straight: - [info]yoshiko34, 2006-04-26 09:31 pm UTC
If the game is inappropriate for your kids...
[info]boffo97
2006-04-26 01:37 pm UTC (link)
...DON'T LET THEM PLAY IT, MORON.

Don't expect the government to become a nanny state and raise your kids for you.

Though I will give her points for attempting to enforce her choices in speech the right way (public opinion and the like) rather than the wrong way (government bans, like Jacko wants)

(Reply to this) (Thread)

Re: If the game is inappropriate for your kids...
[info]kurisu7885
2006-04-26 01:40 pm UTC (link)
I could say she loses those points for forcing her beliefs on others. I mena ,what if that was the only HOuse of the Dead machin in the area? Anyone who wnet there to palyi t will be dissapointed.

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

Re: If the game is inappropriate for your kids... - [info]boffo97, 2006-04-26 03:11 pm UTC
Re: If the game is inappropriate for your kids... - [info]kurisu7885, 2006-04-26 03:13 pm UTC
Re: If the game is inappropriate for your kids... - [info]premo_maggot, 2006-04-26 06:54 pm UTC
Re: If the game is inappropriate for your kids... - [info]boffo97, 2006-04-26 10:38 pm UTC
Re: If the game is inappropriate for your kids... - [info]premo_maggot, 2006-04-27 12:27 am UTC

[info]jindewinter
2006-04-26 01:55 pm UTC (link)
*sigh* If you don't want your kid playing theses games keep them out of the arcade lady.

"Even if I chose for my child not to play that game, the sounds and visuals were still present,"

I don't know about anyone elses movie theaters but mine usually have House of the Dead tucked into the corner of the arcade to where you have to be standing infront of it playing the game to see anything. What do you mean sounds? The cheesy sound effcts from the game? Lady I doubt your kid knows what a zombie is supposed to sound like.

"This is like showing an R-rated movie to my kids if they're in there"

O.o ummmm no, Nobody is forcing your spawn to go in a look at the game or even play it for that matter. And if they are in the little theater arcade shouldn't you be with them at all times? Or are you like other soccer moms who send their kids off to play while you talk to the other soccer moms on what new comtraption you got installed into your SUV that keeps your ass at a constant 75 degrees? I can't believe someone would cave into a dumbass like this, so she and her friends don't go to your theater, big whoop it isn't like they alone were brining in the money you have a couple hundred people coming in every day and more than that on the weekends. The theater would of never lost any money.

(Reply to this) (Thread)


[info]kurisu7885
2006-04-26 02:07 pm UTC (link)
As I said, if I were the owner, and she threatened a boycott "I hope you and anyone dumb enough to listen owns a DVD player."

(Reply to this) (Parent)

(no subject) - [info]the1jeffy, 2006-04-26 02:11 pm UTC

[info]the1jeffy
2006-04-26 02:07 pm UTC (link)
So she told executives at Century Theatres that she would no longer attend their movies until all violent video games were yanked from the theater's arcade at Jordan Creek Town Center.

I'd pull a standard theatre manager move: hand her 3 free passes, and kick her out the door.

"Repeated exposure increases the likelihood of aggressive behavior over time," said Craig Anderson, a psychology professor at Iowa State University who has studied the effects of media violence.

Will this asshat ever shut up? WRONG!

Did this woman grow up in a cave on Mars, with her fingers in her ears and her eyes shut? Violent arcade games are hardly a new thing in theatres. "Teh Vi-lence hurts me babies!" screams the stupid person. And what movies did she watch when she was young? She's what, like 25-30 tops? I bet she snuck into the Omen or the Exorcist, or some such. And she turned out just fine . . . . wait a minute. Maybe violent media does harm kids. Or is it some people are just raised stupid?

"If you don't want your child seeing it, don't let them go there," said J.W. Cleaver, 15, of Des Moines, who sharpened his aim Saturday at Loco Joe's Nickel Arcade.

Oft does wisdom flow from the mouth of babes. Why can a "video game addled" youth get it where a "responsible adult" cannot? WTG, J.W., you do us gamers proud.

"I think they're pretty fun. You get to aim and stuff," he said. A fifth-grader at Studebaker Elementary School, Alex said he gets "freaked out" shooting lifelike characters but adds that an arcade without those games would be boring. He also likes to play animated games like "Mouse Attack."

I love the Register's meager attempt at balance here. Sensationalist, much?

(Reply to this) (Thread)

At least they tried
[info]pixelante_ninja
2006-04-26 06:46 pm UTC (link)
As opposed to interviewing some eight year old addicted to the arcade (that's who they think we are apparently) they interviewed someone at a age where they should be able to decide for themselves who had common sense, and some fifth year old to show that violent games aren't the only ones played and not everyone plays them.

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

Re: At least they tried - [info]seifd, 2006-04-26 07:00 pm UTC

[info]slyfoxx
2006-04-26 02:22 pm UTC (link)
Don't these games like House of the Dead usually have a black curtain around them for this very reason? As for the sound, what is she going to do about the teens making "inappropriate" comments at the back of the cinema while the ads are rolling before the actual movie begins? Should the cinemas ban teens from seeing the movies because they might say something that the kiddies shouldn't hear? Or should the cinemas simply tell her that some things she can't control no matter how hard she tries and maybe she should wait for dvd?

Should also point out that it's easy to tell the difference between House of the Dead and real life: real people don't have angles, nor are they ZOMBIES.

(Reply to this) (Thread)


[info]kurisu7885
2006-04-26 02:29 pm UTC (link)
Actually, Jurassic Park has tha,t I haven't seen it on any otherm ahcines, but there's no reason a curtain couldn't have been added had it been requested, then again ,we've seen how people liek this are with compromise.

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]lomdr, 2006-04-26 02:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kurisu7885, 2006-04-26 02:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]anticron, 2006-04-26 02:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]thejury_rigged, 2006-04-26 04:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]anticron, 2006-04-26 05:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]thejury_rigged, 2006-04-26 06:02 pm UTC

[info]jargon_john
2006-04-26 02:28 pm UTC (link)
Actually, wouldn't it be better if people like her stopped seeing movies and such? If so, no one would complain about violent movies and videogames.

(Reply to this) (Thread)


[info]frankytfrank
2006-04-26 02:58 pm UTC (link)
Personally, I think people like her should stop breeding or even breathing.

It isnt the job of the theatre or those around your children to raise them, ITS THE PARENTS JOB. This is not rocket science here, if you cannot keep control of your children stop bringing them to theatres. I doubt anyone else would complain not having to have some young 6 year old running around with a mom going "Oh boys will be boys". Be a parent and not a passive bystander.

(Reply to this) (Parent)


[info]mandike
2006-04-26 02:33 pm UTC (link)
Ugh. I worked at an arcade in high school, and I both know and hate this woman. They are of the belief that the arcade = inexpensive day care. They just let their little piglets run free and go wild in the arcade completly without supervision (sometimes even without money). What makes this a problem is that they then don't want to take any responsibility for their kids ... at all.

Here's a true story. We had this one arcade at a big hotel. Jackass Parent A sends his four year old son into the arcade by himself with no money. Four year old takes the gun from Lethal Enforcers (maybe Area 51) game and starts slamming it into the side of the machine. I go over and tell him not to and take the gun from him. Five minutes later he's doing it again. As I'm telling him not to yet again, Jackass parent A walks in and goes buck nutty that I would dare reprimand his child because "This is the arcade, its where the kids are supposed to go to have fun." Apparently fun can also = the destruction of other peoples property and the ruining of fun for others. Long story short, I said to the guy that if he would be willing to pay me $500 (to pay for the repairs and lost revenue) that I would let his little hellion smash the gun against the side of the machine for as long as he would like, but that otherwise his little idiot son should consider both the games and game room off limits unless he was paying to play them. He tried to get me fired, I got him kicked out of the hotel.

So yeah, these parents who don't want to parent their own child are just assholes, plain and simple.

(Reply to this) (Thread)


[info]kurisu7885
2006-04-26 02:40 pm UTC (link)
Sounds alot liek the ounks who break the controllers and screens on demo consoles on purpose. I remember once going to try out a game I had been wantign for the GC only to find the C stick missing. Naturally I reported it and the next tiem it happened the jerk was caught in the act and asked to not come back.

As for your story man, you did the right thing, and odds are they woudl have kicked the guy out instead of firing you as it was his kid tryign to break the machine and it was his responsibility to control the kid.

(Reply to this) (Parent)

(no subject) - [info]lomdr, 2006-04-26 02:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]beacon80, 2006-04-26 03:34 pm UTC
try to see both sides of the argument
[info]eskoska
2006-04-26 02:37 pm UTC (link)
See on one hand I completly agree that as an adult we should have the right to play any video game we see fit, if we want to play a game that involves pissing on the brains of dead CEO's we have that right.

However, and I haven't been into an arcade in ages, those games should be kept away and in seperate area's than the Ms. Pac-Mans and air hockey tables of the world. I can only speak to my experience which is they're not. There is only one movie theater in my neck of the woods (oakland california) that has a video game arcade, and I guarentee you that you can hear the guns and violence of the House of the Dead type games (which I enjoy on a home console) while standing in line to get popcorn.
I don't have any kids, but if I did, I don't think I'd want them to see/hear that while we were going to see an age appropriate movie. Granted I'm not that lady, and I wouldn't enforce my opinions on the rest of the world, so I'd just go to another theater. But what if you can't go to another theater?

(Reply to this) (Thread)

Re: try to see both sides of the argument
[info]kurisu7885
2006-04-26 02:43 pm UTC (link)
Gameworks has such a system that I know of. Most of the violent games are kept in a single corridor and you need to be an adult or need to be with an adult to be in there,.

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

Re: try to see both sides of the argument - [info]eskoska, 2006-04-26 02:55 pm UTC
Re: try to see both sides of the argument - [info]kurisu7885, 2006-04-26 03:06 pm UTC
Re: try to see both sides of the argument - [info]the1jeffy, 2006-04-26 02:53 pm UTC
Re: try to see both sides of the argument - [info]eskoska, 2006-04-26 02:59 pm UTC
Re: try to see both sides of the argument - [info]the1jeffy, 2006-04-26 03:32 pm UTC
Re: try to see both sides of the argument - [info]eskoska, 2006-04-26 04:07 pm UTC
Re: try to see both sides of the argument - [info]the1jeffy, 2006-04-26 04:43 pm UTC
Re: try to see both sides of the argument - [info]thejury_rigged, 2006-04-26 04:44 pm UTC
Re: try to see both sides of the argument - [info]the1jeffy, 2006-04-26 06:56 pm UTC
Re: try to see both sides of the argument - [info]thejury_rigged, 2006-04-26 07:14 pm UTC
Re: try to see both sides of the argument - [info]the1jeffy, 2006-04-26 07:51 pm UTC
Re: try to see both sides of the argument - [info]thejury_rigged, 2006-04-26 08:11 pm UTC
Onnly tangentially related
[info]wedgetalon
2006-04-26 02:46 pm UTC (link)
I barely ever go to the movie theatre anymore, and when i do, it's an odd showing, such as noon on a schoolday; there'll be maybe two other people in the theatre. So many stupid people are just incredibly rude in nearly any other showings I go to.

And it's not just a new up-and-coming generation that's rude. Just the other month I was at a showing of the newest Harry Potter movie and these two morons behind me just would NOT shut up; they were probably between 55 and 65, if not a bit older. So why is it that not only current generations are rude in the theatres but older ones to?

If you want to talk, go somewhere else. If you want to make comments on the movie, wait until it's over. If you have to comment while it's playing, get the DVD - only you really care about your comments anyway. Turn off your f'ing cellphone and pager or put them on vibrate. When an entire row of seats is empty, you do not have to sit right next to me; please respect my personal bubble. Just sit down, shut up, and watch the damn movie.

/GRR
//Get off my lawn!
///Sorry for venting

(Reply to this) (Thread)

Re: Onnly tangentially related
[info]kurisu7885
2006-04-26 02:49 pm UTC (link)
"So why is it that not only current generations are rude in the theatres but older ones to?"

I wonder if Jack can answer this without sounding like a jerk again. Meh, when turtles fly problably.

(Reply to this) (Parent)

Re: Onnly tangentially related - [info]the1jeffy, 2006-04-26 02:56 pm UTC
Re: Onnly tangentially related - [info]wedgetalon, 2006-04-26 03:03 pm UTC
Re: Onnly tangentially related - [info]jindewinter, 2006-04-26 03:06 pm UTC
Re: Onnly tangentially related - [info]kurisu7885, 2006-04-26 03:08 pm UTC
Re: Onnly tangentially related - [info]wedgetalon, 2006-04-26 03:09 pm UTC
Re: Onnly tangentially related - [info]jindewinter, 2006-04-26 03:17 pm UTC
Re: Onnly tangentially related - [info]seifd, 2006-04-26 07:08 pm UTC
Re: Onnly tangentially related - [info]jindewinter, 2006-04-27 02:03 pm UTC
Re: Onnly tangentially related - [info]jindewinter, 2006-04-27 02:04 pm UTC
Economics
[info]rascal1182
2006-04-26 02:52 pm UTC (link)
Am I the only one who thinks both parties acted reasonably here? Say what you want about the responsibility of the reporter for quoting Anderson or saying that a 15 year old "sharpened his aim Saturday at Loco Joe's Nickel Arcade," but I'm not convinced that either the parents who signed the petition or the theater owners did anything wrong.

Tracy Codel did what so many of you are asking her to do - she decided not to take her kids back to the theater while the games were there. A significant number of parents agreed with her, and decided to do the same. The part that makes it newsworthy is the fact that she told the theater what was going on, and in a strangely rational moment, informed them what they would have to change for her (and all the other parents') business to return.

The parents could have simply stopped going, leaving the owners of the theater scratching their heads as to why they aren't selling tickets to kids movies.

As far as the theater owners, you can bet they're not getting a huge percentage of the $30 billion. Movie theaters have arcade machines as an extra source of revenue for people who are already going to the theater. I have never met a person who goes to the movie theater solely to play a video game. If the arcade machines start significantly detracting from business (which would grow even worse as the word got out to more parents), you'd be stupid not to remove them.

Concessions and movie ticket revenue are worth the exchange, and you could probably make up the lost arcade revenue by putting in a(nother) DDR machine.

This isn't censorship, it's economics.

(Reply to this) (Thread)

Re: Economics
[info]kurisu7885
2006-04-26 02:55 pm UTC (link)
Well, my problem personally is that she was shoving her opinion in other's faces basically, and it was basically all or nothing, instead of a compromise like, say, putting a curtain aroudn the machine or something along those lines.

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

Re: Economics - [info]rascal1182, 2006-04-26 05:24 pm UTC
Re: Economics - [info]misstigerpounce, 2006-04-26 07:37 pm UTC
Re: Economics - [info]crtiger, 2006-04-26 07:48 pm UTC
Re: Economics - [info]thefremen, 2006-04-26 07:50 pm UTC
Re: Economics - [info]misstigerpounce, 2006-04-27 08:09 pm UTC
I'm confuzed
[info]braindead1
2006-04-26 03:08 pm UTC (link)
Isn't it easyier to just not let your kids into the arcade. It worked for my mom for years:

ME: "Mom can i go to the arcade"
Mom: "no"
Me: "Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease?"
Mom: "no"
Me: "Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease?"
Mom: "no"
Me: "Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease?"
Mom: "no"
Me: "Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease?"
Mom: "no"
Me: "Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease?"
Mom: "no"
Me: "Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease?"
Mom: "no"
Me: "Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease?"
Mom: "no"
Me: "Dang"

See its a lot easier (and less exenceive) Then arguing with a movie manager untill he gives in.

(Reply to this) (Thread)

Re: I'm confuzed
[info]kurisu7885
2006-04-26 03:10 pm UTC (link)
Same for my own parents usually. I didn't get to go to arcades al lthe time and stil ldon't, well, untill me or my friends get a car and we can go on our own terms.

(Reply to this) (Parent)

I'm on the fence on this one
[info]tollwutig
2006-04-26 03:19 pm UTC (link)
On one hand I don't like soccer moms forcing thier opinions on everyone else. On the other I kinda agree with this Mom in that movie theatres are public venues where some tact needs to be used in the selection of entertainment open to all.

Now I don't believe 4 & 6 year olds are going to get into R rated movies alone... even the most nitwitted lazy teenage ticket ripper would stop a 4 & 6 year old from going into an R rated flick. (not a crack on all teens but there are some out there) So I do think the mother has a right to be concerned at what images her kids see when she takes them to Ice Age: The Meltdown.

Movie theatre cater to a rather wide audience in such they really need to be tactful when having arcade games. (Definately if there was ever an arcade version of Leisure Suit Larry it should not be in a Theatre). If the theatre does have games of a Teen rating (highest I would say that belongs there) they should be in a corner and somewhat out of site, with a warning posted that the games in the area are rated for Teens.

Where I disagree:
If these kids were allowed to watch Passion of the Christ her argument falls apart.

Her complaint about the sounds is completely illegitimate, as anyone who has been in a movie theatre lobby knows the noise level in there is insane. Hearing a single video game is impossible.



(Reply to this) (Thread)

Re: I'm on the fence on this one
[info]jabrwock
2006-04-26 03:30 pm UTC (link)
anyone who has been in a movie theatre lobby knows the noise level in there is insane. Hearing a single video game is impossible.

Depends on how the setup is. :)

My theatre has one game in the back with some speaker upgrades. So you hear the announcer congradulating you on your score REALLY loudly. You can almost hear it from the cinema entrances... :D

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

Re: I'm on the fence on this one - [info]loopychew, 2006-04-27 09:07 am UTC

[info]jabrwock
2006-04-26 03:28 pm UTC (link)
The only reason I disagree with what she did, is because she refused to work out a comprimise. She could have worked with the theatre, working out some kind of solution that would allow them to keep their arcade, and for her to feel that her sons were adequately shielded from the "sound effects".

Is she going to complain anytime the door is left open while an R-rated movie is playing, and sounds filter out into the hallway?

The solution could easily have been similar to what the theatre near my house does, which is to have a seperate room/partition, off to the side. Along the hall entrance? DDR, pinball, and other flashy, yet "all-ages" stuff. The mature games are located futher back, so you don't see them as you walk to your movie, and the sounds of those games are drowned out by the sounds of all the other games in front...

But other than that, at least she worked through appropriate channels. More fanatical lunatics would have threatened the theatre with a lawsuit if they didn't co-operate. She just threatened to take her business elsewhere.

The Register should also be ashamed for quoting Anderson. His studies are completely irrelevant to the story. Unless Anderson now wants to claim that hearing zombies get torn apart turns you into a killer...

(Reply to this) (Thread)


[info]the1jeffy
2006-04-26 03:36 pm UTC (link)
.....and for her to feel that her sons were adequately shielded from the "sound effects".

And do you see how absurd it is to get all fired up over 2 seconds exposure to a violent game preview as you walk into the movie? Or "sound effects!" Even if the kid is playing another game next to it, the exposure would be minimal. What is this? Second-hand smoke arguement used against video games? This woman is absurd.

(Reply to this) (Parent)

(no subject) - [info]nightwng2000, 2006-04-26 04:38 pm UTC
Sound effects? .. and watch your own damn kids
[info]beacon80
2006-04-26 03:51 pm UTC (link)
The only sound effects your going to hear from House of the Dead is some undead moaning, a few slashing sounds, and some rather unrealistic firing sounds. These sounds are supposed to somehow traumatize your children?

This is what really gets me, though.
Codel said she was upset because ... there was no one there to keep children from playing the games.
Uh, that's your job. Even assuming a movie theater did decide to have someone monitoring the arcade (which would probably eat up most of the profits the arcade generated), you want to make some minumum wage teenager decide what's appropriate for your kid? Three major problems with this. One is that the teenager is probably going to be notably more open-minded about what age a child should start playing Area 51 at. The second is that during peak hours, when you've got two dozen kids in there, there's no way one employee is going to be able to keep track of them all. He'll be too busy monitoring what the children are playing to pay any attention to what they're watching. Finally, it would just be a crappy ass job, having to tell little children over and over that they can't play this game.
If only there was a simpler, more cost-effective way to monitor the children, like having their parents do it. I know, I'm living in a fantasy world.

(Reply to this)

Kyle's Mom Is A Big Fat Bitch...
[info]catch_33
2006-04-26 03:59 pm UTC (link)
...and so is Tracy Codel.

Tracy Codel, the mother of 4- and 6-year-old boys, began the protest after discovering the violent games at the Century Theater in Jordan Creek Town Center. In a letter and a follow-up petition drive, she urged theater owners to remove the games and vowed not to see another film there until they had done so.

One fucking person vows to not see movies there and the theater caves? Shit, where is this place, I'm going bring some friends and get those machines back in there...

"Even if I chose for my child not to play that game, the sounds and visuals were still present."

So why aren't you worried that your kids might over-hear the F-word when walking by a room showing an R-rated movie? Wouldn't that be worse than them hearing a zombie's head go "Splat!"?

"This is like showing an R-rated movie to my kids if they're in there."



This bitch needs a boot upside the head. I can understand not wanting to expose one's child to violent things, but as I see it, she is definitely one of those people that expects the whole world to cater to her and her kids. I'll bet she makes a stink when someone plays rap or metal music at a high volume in their cars when within 50 feet of her's.

I'm seriously going to have a talk with the people that run Century Theater and explain to them that caving into bitches like her costs them a lot of revenue.

(Reply to this) (Thread)

Re: Kyle's Mom Is A Big Fat Bitch...
[info]jbourrie
2006-04-26 07:55 pm UTC (link)
"So why aren't you worried that your kids might over-hear the F-word when walking by a room showing an R-rated movie? Wouldn't that be worse than them hearing a zombie's head go "Splat!"?"

I sure hope not... fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck... I can say it all day, it's just a fucking word.

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

Re: Kyle's Mom Is A Big Fat Bitch... - [info]catch_33, 2006-04-26 08:06 pm UTC
Attention JT!
[info]tweek_20k
2006-04-26 04:45 pm UTC (link)
This method is a *lot* more effective than your pathetic whining for gov't regulation.

See how her whining to a privately-owned theater chain actually produces results? And no lengthy lawsuits that result in you getting your ass handed to you, either.

(Reply to this) (Thread)

Re: Attention JT!
[info]thefremen
2006-04-26 09:01 pm UTC (link)
Too true. She made herself look prudish and made me worry about her kids being abducted (since she wanted someone to watch what they were playing) but did she go on here and act like a jackass? Go on some 4th rate local station and brag about it? Nope. She did something useful and saw results.

Goes to show that consumers have a choice and can change things without giving george washington a cleaveland steamer.

(Reply to this) (Parent)

Interesting ethics
[info]blitzfitness
2006-04-26 05:01 pm UTC (link)
She wanted to remove a game with zombies (how many zombies does she know?) that get shot with guns (what access does her children have to guns?), yet it's ok that Tekken with people (lots of them around) are beating each other up with their fists (usually a 2:1 ratio with people). Funny how that doesn't register.

(Reply to this) (Thread)

Re: Interesting ethics
[info]jabrwock
2006-04-26 05:07 pm UTC (link)
I think the movie theatre refused to remove Tekken. It was their line in the sand I guess...

Maybe it was a really popular one, and her $10/month didn't stack up to the $10/day it was generating?

(Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

Re: Interesting ethics - [info]catch_33, 2006-04-26 05:16 pm UTC
Re: Interesting ethics - [info]mandike, 2006-04-26 08:37 pm UTC
Re: Interesting ethics - [info]toxic_offender, 2006-04-26 09:43 pm UTC
Re: Interesting ethics - [info]blitzfitness, 2006-04-27 02:24 am UTC
Re: Interesting ethics - [info]catch_33, 2006-04-26 05:13 pm UTC
Re: Interesting ethics - [info]blitzfitness, 2006-04-27 02:24 am UTC

Page 1 of 2
<<[1] [2] >>

Create an Account
Forgot your login or password?
Login w/ OpenID
English • Español • Deutsch • Русский…