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California Game Law Architect Moves to Protect College Newspapers

Some gamers will find this story perplexing.

California Assembly Speaker pro Tem Leland Yee (D), the driving force behind his state's video game law, plans to introduce the nation's first bill designed to protect the free speech rights of college newspapers.

Yee will hold a press conference this morning at Skyline College in San Bruno to announce the bill. Joining Yee will be a representative of the California Newspaper Publishers Association, as well as a Skyline journalism professor and the editor of the school paper.

Motivating Yee's action is a recent federal court ruling that college administrators can require student editors to submit articles for prior review before publication. Yee's bill would prohibit censorship of student newspapers at any University of California, California State University, or community college.

GP: Although this newspaper thing sounds like a great idea, given that Speaker Yee's California video game law is currently facing a free speech challenge raised by the video game industry, some head-scratching is certainly understandable. We'll check with Yee's office for his thoughts on how the two issues reconcile with one another.

UPDATE: According to Yee staffer Adam Keigwin, "the violent video game bill was about protecting children and giving parents a tool to help raising healthy kids. The state had a compelling interest. (the college newspaper bill) is about protecting college students' right to free speech and free press. These students are not minors and not affected by the video game bill, but they are very deserving of 1st Amendment Rights. Without a free college press, who will serve as the watchdog and bring sunshine to actions of school administrators? As said many times, Speaker pro Tem Yee is very committed to protecting the 1st Amendment, but his top priority has always been about protecting children and assisting working families."




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[info]semperar
2006-04-18 02:35 am UTC (link)
I can vaguely understand; remember, Yee is like David Walsh. His issue isn't censorship, its availability for purchase. You can argue that he IS in favor of freedom to MAKE speech, his gripe is... who can receive it.

Its still a bit off, admittedly.

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[info]archenland
2006-04-18 06:52 am UTC (link)
My thoughts exactly, time and again GP confuses the issue of censorship and content control for minors. They are not the same thing! Censorship is where the government controls what materials a diserning adult is allowed to access, and in principle is wrong (there are exceptions such as kiddy porn, snuff flicks and invasions of privacy). The control of what a minor (anyone under the age of 18) is able to purchase/view on the other hand is well within the rights of a freedom loving government. Protecting children is a noble goal and I agree with sheltering them from certain material.

However simply controling the sale of these products to minors is only part of the solution. Teaching parents to be aware of what their children are watching/playing is far more important as chances are a minor will get hold of manhunt or some other game which may skew their moral compass. This is a less popular solution with politicians however because it costs money and means they will be asking their citizens to do something unpopular, that is pay attention to their kids.

Oh yes and the reason all of this is unpopular with the Video Game industry is because they will lose sales, these minors are their biggest market.

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hmm - [info]crazygir, 2006-04-18 07:10 am UTC
Re: hmm - [info]archenland, 2006-04-18 07:32 am UTC
Re: hmm - [info]yukimurasanada, 2006-04-18 09:06 am UTC
Re: hmm - [info]archenland, 2006-04-19 01:49 am UTC
Re: hmm - [info]nightwng2000, 2006-04-18 10:27 am UTC
Re: hmm - [info]archenland, 2006-04-19 02:05 am UTC
Re: hmm - [info]archenland, 2006-04-19 02:07 am UTC
Re: hmm - [info]nightwng2000, 2006-04-19 04:41 pm UTC
Re: hmm - [info]crazygir, 2006-04-18 03:30 pm UTC
focus - [info]jabrwock, 2006-04-18 05:13 pm UTC
Re: focus - [info]crazygir, 2006-04-18 05:29 pm UTC
Re: focus - [info]jabrwock, 2006-04-18 05:43 pm UTC
Re: focus - [info]crazygir, 2006-04-18 06:23 pm UTC
Re: focus - [info]jabrwock, 2006-04-18 06:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tollwutig, 2006-04-18 01:14 pm UTC
WoW... couldn't disagree with you more - [info]bigman_k, 2006-04-18 02:41 pm UTC
Re: WoW... couldn't disagree with you more - [info]semperar, 2006-04-18 06:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]keddren, 2006-04-18 04:31 pm UTC
please put the lighter down. now, put down the constitution. - [info]thefremen, 2006-04-18 07:42 pm UTC

[info]fallbackcorpse
2006-04-18 02:37 am UTC (link)
I don't think he's got much issue with reconciling the two issues. I've read plenty of columnists that believe that the press should follow majoritarian rule, and after getting degrees in journalism, they don't seem to have much problem challenging free speech while using it.

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[info]frankie23
2006-04-18 02:41 am UTC (link)
He clearly views College Papers as being acceptable and "real" free speech, while still maintaining his viewpoint that things as morally degrading as video games aren't.

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I want...
[info]curiousthompson
2006-04-18 02:43 am UTC (link)
If college newspapers get protected free speech rights, then I want the San Juan school district to remove ristrictions on the "snowman shirt" ban in return. Frosty the snowman promotes coccain my ass!

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Re: I want...
[info]traiklin
2006-04-18 04:52 am UTC (link)
well there's Frosty the Snowman: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064349/
and then there is
The Snoman: http://www.rapindustry.com/shirts-hip-hopx014.htm

Frosty doesn't promote cocain use but The Snoman does.

Now if they are banning all forms of Snowmen on T-Shirts I can understand how stupid it is.

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[info]jargon_john
2006-04-18 02:46 am UTC (link)
Book burning ended a long time ago.

If restrictions were placed on newspapers, that'll be CENSORSHIP!

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I wonder
[info]enmitywithin
2006-04-18 02:55 am UTC (link)
how does yee spell "hypocritical" I think he spells it P-O-L-I-T-I-C-S

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[info]phantompvp
2006-04-18 02:57 am UTC (link)
It's simple.

Underage gamers can't vote yet. Nor do they have a lobby.

College students, however, CAN vote. And most colleges have pretty active lobbying groups representing student interests.

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[info]tollwutig
2006-04-18 01:16 pm UTC (link)
You summed it up nicely, also College students esp in CA tend to be very active politically.

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(no subject) - [info]jargon_john, 2006-04-18 03:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bigman_k, 2006-04-18 02:42 pm UTC
I don't find this odd at all
[info]jerico6
2006-04-18 03:04 am UTC (link)
Sure Yee is being a little hypocritical, but it's not odd. You need to remember that Yee does not favor censorship. Him defending free speech for College newspapers would not be surprising.

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Yee, the perfect definition of a flip-flopper
[info]monkeyincorner
2006-04-18 03:44 am UTC (link)
Move over John Kerry, here come Lelan Yee. I guess he figured the average age of video gamer is 29 and those gamers are becoming more involved politically. How can he not alienate those gamers? Act like he's a free speech proponent. What a schmuck!

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Political Baka .....
[info]zippydsmlee
2006-04-18 04:01 am UTC (link)
He cant win for loseing..and lacks forsight...you cant make a law to enforce game sales unless you enfoce all media sales (book,cd,dvd,games) and you cant do that without....mmmmm reformatign the constentusion...however its easy to see the wrong in collages bearing down the black boot when free thinking writers wish to talk about things the collage admin would rather have themnot talk about.....BTW collage = adults
and if in the rare case you are 17 and in collage you are probly more mature than half of the students there.....

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Re: Political Baka .....
[info]gatz111085
2006-04-19 03:08 pm UTC (link)
that's like one of my college friends was 15 when he started college, and had completed all of his math classes required his first semester. All he had left to take was Deferintal equations.

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Re: Political Baka ..... - [info]zippydsmlee, 2006-04-19 07:51 pm UTC

[info]finaleve
2006-04-18 04:16 am UTC (link)
attack the ones that cant vote and support the ones that can. That's what im seeing. It's a little too obvious now.

And wasn't he saying that he was basically done after the Bill? Or did i miss something and im being stupid.

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[info]kurisu7885
2006-04-18 04:59 am UTC (link)
Sounds similar to a certai nlawyer's strategy. "Fight those who can't fight bacn abd hide fro mthose that can."

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Oh Yee...
[info]revotruthinary
2006-04-18 06:07 am UTC (link)
...why you gotta be so cold?

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Re: Oh Yee...
[info]enmitywithin
2006-04-18 10:50 am UTC (link)
It's simple. he's one of those people that think only children play videogames.

like I said before, he spells hypocrite as P-O-L-I-T-C-S

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Re: Oh Yee... - [info]semperar, 2006-04-18 03:44 pm UTC
Re: Oh Yee... - [info]enmitywithin, 2006-04-18 06:23 pm UTC

[info]nozomu
2006-04-18 06:07 am UTC (link)
I don't think this is hypocritical at all, it's a fundamental misunderstanding on his part.

The older generation looks at our generation's popular media as "for children" because they were generally exposed to it by their children. And their children grew up, but the media grew up with them. And a lot of the older generation just see them as games and toys for children that adults should have outgrown. Comic books were the same way, though they took a lot longer to grow with their audience. It's something for "young people."

Baby Boomers didn't grow up with video games, And video games grew up with Generation X. Video games came around at a time when the youngest Boomers were about 15. They had Pong, Frogger, Pac-Man, and Doney Kong. I'm 25 this year, which makes me the youngest year of Gen Xers. I have literally had video games since the day I was born. My parents had an Atari, and I got a Nintendo Entertainment System when it came out. My parents never got into the NES, though there were a few games they played, my mom liked Zelda, my dad loved Tecmo Bowl. And with every new system that came out, I played more and more games, and my parents played less and less, to the point where my mom only plays The Sims and my dad wants to play Madden with me, but it's too complicated for him to keep up. And they're in their early 50's, which is about the age of your average lawmaker.

So do we really expect these people to see video games as anything other than something they outgrew and something their kids play? They know what a newspaper is, and that student newspapers are import to get real news on campus. They don't understand that video games are a viable artform for adults. They don't understand the internet at all.

It's an issue of the generation gap. Are things going to change? Yeah. Are they going to change soon? The youngest members of the US Senate, like Barak Obama and John Sununu, are the oldest members of Generation X. It's something to think about, as our generation gains power, Boomers like Yee, Clinton, and Thompson are going to be marginalized.

And we'll probably be convinced whatever popular media our kids have isn't the same as video games, and we'll try to put restrictions on it. Or we'll be the generation to stop it once and for all.

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[info]jaykaos
2006-04-18 06:30 am UTC (link)
Man, that's the point I always try to make, and you did it better and more well-written.
Bastard.

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(no subject) - [info]lost_watcher, 2006-04-18 07:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tollwutig, 2006-04-18 01:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]xlorep_darkhelm, 2006-04-18 03:35 pm UTC
I like your style. - [info]lucienne, 2006-04-18 06:01 pm UTC
Re: I like your style. - [info]nozomu, 2006-04-18 07:23 pm UTC
It might have to do with the fact the kids are saying stuff he agrees with.
[info]thefremen
2006-04-18 09:04 am UTC (link)
Really though, what else do they put in College newspapers besides long winded conspiracy theories about how GW (or Rush or Coulter or whoever) is responisble for all that is wrong with the world. I'm not saying that Coulter isn't a bitch or that Bush isn't doing poorly at his job, but most of these college papers I've read are pretty damned crazy.

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Re: It might have to do with the fact the kids are saying stuff he agrees with.
[info]tollwutig
2006-04-18 01:22 pm UTC (link)
Actually my college newspaper usually poked fun at the local stuff that was kinda absurd. My favorite was the annual update on the invasion of the Boat People (retirees who would come to the Mtns in the summer usually in groups not less than 5 to a car.)

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Re: It might have to do with the fact the kids are saying stuff he agrees with. - [info]sense7, 2006-04-18 01:25 pm UTC
Re: It might have to do with the fact the kids are saying stuff he agrees with. - [info]tollwutig, 2006-04-18 02:46 pm UTC
Re: It might have to do with the fact the kids are saying stuff he agrees with. - [info]sense7, 2006-04-18 04:19 pm UTC
Re: It might have to do with the fact the kids are saying stuff he agrees with. - [info]tollwutig, 2006-04-18 06:09 pm UTC
Re: It might have to do with the fact the kids are saying stuff he agrees with. - [info]thefremen, 2006-04-18 06:36 pm UTC

[info]silver_derstin
2006-04-18 11:39 am UTC (link)
How much was Mister Yee offered to defend this cause? Or how many votes can he make sure he has with this?

Only reason why he'd be defending the issue, from ealier information on the guy...

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Well...
[info]mr_putter
2006-04-18 11:56 am UTC (link)
I have to support him mostly, on the issue discussed in the article and his games thingy, but only for the YOUNGER CROWD ( 11 or younger ). If he has it for enforcing the way-too-extreme M-rating, than I am not gonna support him on the games thing.

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It's politics
[info]solidsnark
2006-04-18 01:09 pm UTC (link)
He's pandering to 2 completely different demographics. (Ignorant, irresponsible, fear driven parents and college students/news media)

The point of reconciliation is that it's all about getting votes.

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It's really two different issues
[info]pixelante_ninja
2006-04-18 01:32 pm UTC (link)
For this, it's adults, for video games it whether violence can be declared offensive to minors and whether they have first amendmant rights to it. But for college newspapers it's much more clear cut, it's adults freedom of press and fairly easy to get for anyone, even if they aren't involved, something that's not so for video game legislature.

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Politics are fun
[info]skemodan
2006-04-18 02:27 pm UTC (link)
It's like a game. You have to see how much BS you can stand on as a plaform before it caves in underneath you. Sort of like using Jenga as an alegory.

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Politics are fun
[info]fallbackcorpse
2006-04-18 03:35 pm UTC (link)
I was thinking more of ice breaker...

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Re: Politics are fun - [info]skemodan, 2006-04-18 04:24 pm UTC
Re: Politics are fun - [info]fallbackcorpse, 2006-04-18 05:00 pm UTC
There Is Absolutely NOTHING Perplexing About This Story
[info]blessfromjack
2006-04-18 03:50 pm UTC (link)
Real defenders of the First Amendment, such as Leland Yee and myself, understand that what constitutionalists call "political speech" is fully protected by the Constitution. What is not protected is the marketing of adult-rated porn and violence to kids. To the extent that the latter is tolerated, the real First Amendment is cheapened.

What is hypocritical here is not the stance of Yee and me, but rather the knuckleheads who exult in their "pixelante" status--which is defined as someone who tries to shut up video game critics--and then, in the name of freedom of expression, threaten me, my wife, and my right to speak out on the issues of the day.

The only censors, the only opponents of the First Amendment, are gamers who will not tolerate any dissent on their masturbatory game of choice.

Jack Thompson

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you just don't get it.
[info]jabrwock
2006-04-18 03:58 pm UTC (link)
I'd like to see your reaction when the newspaper prints images of the prophet Mohammed, or Jesus pooping on the american flag. Or prints a fictional story of a woman being raped, or cops being executed.

I'd pay a dollar to see the look on your face. Especially when they hand out copies of that newspaper to minors.

Because you wouldn't be able to do a damn thing about it.

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Re: you just don't get it. - [info]nightwng2000, 2006-04-18 04:17 pm UTC
gun simulators - [info]jabrwock, 2006-04-18 04:33 pm UTC
Re: There Is Absolutely NOTHING Perplexing About This Story - [info]ianc14, 2006-04-18 04:03 pm UTC
oh yeah - [info]jabrwock, 2006-04-18 04:04 pm UTC
Re: oh yeah - [info]nightwng2000, 2006-04-18 04:22 pm UTC
above the rules - [info]jabrwock, 2006-04-18 04:30 pm UTC
Re: above the rules - [info]nightwng2000, 2006-04-18 04:49 pm UTC
Re: above the rules - [info]jabrwock, 2006-04-18 04:53 pm UTC
Re: above the rules - [info]tollwutig, 2006-04-18 05:32 pm UTC
Re: above the rules - [info]nightwng2000, 2006-04-18 10:47 pm UTC
Re: above the rules - [info]jabrwock, 2006-04-18 10:53 pm UTC
Re: oh yeah - [info]gatz111085, 2006-04-19 03:19 pm UTC
Re: There Is Absolutely NOTHING Perplexing About This Story - [info]ianc14, 2006-04-18 04:05 pm UTC
it's ALL true! - [info]jabrwock, 2006-04-18 04:49 pm UTC
Re: it's ALL true! - [info]skemodan, 2006-04-18 06:09 pm UTC
0_o - [info]jabrwock, 2006-04-18 06:16 pm UTC
Re: There Is Absolutely NOTHING Perplexing About This Story - [info]grey_poet, 2006-04-18 04:06 pm UTC
Fish and Relatives - [info]skemodan, 2006-04-18 04:23 pm UTC
Re: Fish and Relatives - [info]ianc14, 2006-04-18 04:32 pm UTC
Re: Fish and Relatives - [info]skemodan, 2006-04-18 04:37 pm UTC
Re: Fish and Relatives - [info]origamifrog, 2006-04-18 04:52 pm UTC
Re: Fish and Relatives - [info]fallbackcorpse, 2006-04-18 05:07 pm UTC
Re: Fish and Relatives - [info]skemodan, 2006-04-18 05:10 pm UTC
Re: Fish and Relatives - [info]origamifrog, 2006-04-18 05:17 pm UTC
Re: Fish and Relatives - [info]fallbackcorpse, 2006-04-18 05:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kharne83, 2006-04-18 06:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]fallbackcorpse, 2006-04-18 06:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kharne83, 2006-04-18 06:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ianc14, 2006-04-18 07:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]agentch, 2006-04-18 07:40 pm UTC
Re: Fish and Relatives - [info]xlorep_darkhelm, 2006-04-18 11:28 pm UTC
Re: Fish and Relatives - [info]dutch_gamer, 2006-04-19 02:21 pm UTC
Re: There Is Absolutely NOTHING Perplexing About This Story - [info]illspirit, 2006-04-18 04:36 pm UTC
Re: There Is Absolutely NOTHING Perplexing About This Story - [info]skemodan, 2006-04-18 04:38 pm UTC
I think you will find that the US courts would disagree with you. - [info]godofyouall, 2006-04-18 04:39 pm UTC
Re: There Is Absolutely NOTHING Perplexing About This Story - [info]solidsnark, 2006-04-18 04:56 pm UTC
Re: There Is Absolutely NOTHING Perplexing About This Story - [info]skemodan, 2006-04-18 05:04 pm UTC
Re: There Is Absolutely NOTHING Perplexing About This Story - [info]keddren, 2006-04-18 05:02 pm UTC
Re: There Is Absolutely NOTHING Perplexing About This Story - [info]beacon80, 2006-04-18 06:53 pm UTC
Re: There Is Absolutely NOTHING Perplexing About This Story - [info]fallbackcorpse, 2006-04-18 05:05 pm UTC
Bible Black - [info]kharne83, 2006-04-18 05:13 pm UTC
Re: Bible Black - [info]rhanlav, 2006-04-18 09:43 pm UTC
Re: Bible Black - [info]kingnintendoid, 2006-04-18 10:40 pm UTC
Re: Bible Black - [info]lost_watcher, 2006-04-18 11:29 pm UTC
Re: Bible Black - [info]kingnintendoid, 2006-04-19 12:20 pm UTC
question for Jack-ass - [info]kincyr, 2006-04-18 05:24 pm UTC
Re: There Is Absolutely NOTHING Perplexing About This Story - [info]majestic_12_x, 2006-04-18 05:41 pm UTC
Re: There Is Absolutely NOTHING Perplexing About This Story - [info]ianc14, 2006-04-18 05:42 pm UTC
It's all about getting people worked up - [info]jabrwock, 2006-04-18 05:50 pm UTC
Re: It's all about getting people worked up - [info]skemodan, 2006-04-18 05:56 pm UTC
Re: There Is Absolutely NOTHING Perplexing About This Story - [info]residentlune, 2006-04-18 06:18 pm UTC
Re: There Is Absolutely NOTHING Perplexing About This Story - [info]cecil475, 2006-04-18 06:23 pm UTC
Re: There Is Absolutely NOTHING Perplexing About This Story - [info]mazinger_z, 2006-04-18 06:34 pm UTC
Re: There Is Absolutely NOTHING Perplexing About This Story - [info]kincyr, 2006-04-18 07:05 pm UTC
summarized rebuttal to all points - [info]semperar, 2006-04-18 06:43 pm UTC
Re: summarized rebuttal to all points - [info]silver_derstin, 2006-04-18 07:04 pm UTC
Re: summarized rebuttal to all points - [info]semperar, 2006-04-18 07:22 pm UTC
Re: summarized rebuttal to all points - [info]boffo97, 2006-04-19 12:25 am UTC
Re: There Is Absolutely NOTHING Perplexing About This Story - [info]j_man924, 2006-04-18 07:20 pm UTC
Re: There Is Absolutely NOTHING Perplexing About This Story - [info]goodrobotus, 2006-04-18 07:22 pm UTC
Re: There Is Absolutely NOTHING Perplexing About This Story - [info]xlorep_darkhelm, 2006-04-18 07:54 pm UTC
Re: There Is Absolutely NOTHING Perplexing About This Story - [info]dutch_gamer, 2006-04-19 02:30 pm UTC
Re: There Is Absolutely NOTHING Perplexing About This Story - [info]xlorep_darkhelm, 2006-04-19 03:26 pm UTC
Ok, getting tired now. - [info]muhammed, 2006-04-18 08:22 pm UTC
Jack, remember this law? - [info]joshdavis271, 2006-04-18 09:09 pm UTC
Re: Jack, remember this law? - [info]yzzerdd, 2006-04-18 10:00 pm UTC
Re: Jack, remember this law? - [info]joshdavis271, 2006-04-19 07:17 am UTC
Damn - [info]enmitywithin, 2006-04-19 12:19 am UTC
For each of Jack's post, I will respond with this. - [info]pelka64, 2006-04-19 12:54 am UTC
Re: Jack Thompson again proves himself to be the Metropolitian Moron of Miami - [info]beardoggx, 2006-04-19 01:14 am UTC
Jack Thompson is now officially my image macro bitch - [info]joemag, 2006-04-19 01:28 am UTC
Go masturbate somewhere else - [info]bennyboy371, 2006-04-19 02:43 am UTC
Re: There Is Absolutely NOTHING Perplexing About This Story - [info]jaketheelf, 2006-04-19 07:38 am UTC
Re: There Is Absolutely NOTHING Perplexing About This Story - [info]mr_putter, 2006-04-19 11:48 am UTC
You couldn't stay away...
[info]skemodan
2006-04-18 04:36 pm UTC (link)
You just HAD to come back. WHY?! Do you sit at your desk all day giggling like a school girl over pissing us off? You're no better than perverts who go into chat rooms and start having cyber-sex with little boys.

In a more positive light, Jack, I've recently conducted a study to find a correllation between gaming and atheism/agnosticism.

I have found that gaming leads to such behaviors. How did I go abotu conducting this study you ask? Well I surveyed a number of people, me, my girlfriend, my two best friends, and my grandma, and found that out of the sample space, those who played video games were also atheists. I didn't bother to ask if they were atheists because of video games, or if they upheld these ideals before they became involved in gaming, but that's ok. Why add credibility to my study when I can just make shit up for your sake?

So there you go Jack. Another piece of scientific evidence for you to cite whenever you hurl out your bucketloads of misguided lies and bigotry. Remember to cite "Dan Barron Pwn'd j00 University" as your source of information. Thanks to your new laws of accountability and causal relationships, correlation now means causation so this study is 100% valid and true because I said so and it helps push your narrow-minded agenda, you sinner.

You're such a sick bastard. I hope you get hit by a car.

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Re: You couldn't stay away...
[info]fallbackcorpse
2006-04-18 05:10 pm UTC (link)
Hmm. Cars are really too nice of a way to go.

I vote squeevils with miniature chain-saws.

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Re: You couldn't stay away... - [info]skemodan, 2006-04-18 05:13 pm UTC
Re: You couldn't stay away... - [info]fallbackcorpse, 2006-04-18 05:18 pm UTC
Re: You couldn't stay away... - [info]tollwutig, 2006-04-18 05:43 pm UTC
Re: You couldn't stay away... - [info]keddren, 2006-04-18 05:45 pm UTC
Re: You couldn't stay away... - [info]skemodan, 2006-04-18 05:46 pm UTC
Re: You couldn't stay away... - [info]kincyr, 2006-04-18 06:38 pm UTC
Re: You couldn't stay away... - [info]semperar, 2006-04-18 07:26 pm UTC
Re: You couldn't stay away... - [info]tollwutig, 2006-04-19 01:32 pm UTC
Re: You couldn't stay away... - [info]semperar, 2006-04-18 07:28 pm UTC
Re: You couldn't stay away... - [info]skemodan, 2006-04-18 07:36 pm UTC
Re: You couldn't stay away... - [info]fallbackcorpse, 2006-04-18 08:13 pm UTC
Re: You couldn't stay away... - [info]skemodan, 2006-04-18 08:15 pm UTC
Re: You couldn't stay away... - [info]fallbackcorpse, 2006-04-18 08:17 pm UTC
Re: You couldn't stay away... - [info]fallbackcorpse, 2006-04-18 08:18 pm UTC
Re: You couldn't stay away... - [info]tollwutig, 2006-04-19 01:31 pm UTC
Re: You couldn't stay away... - [info]skemodan, 2006-04-19 01:46 pm UTC
Re: You couldn't stay away... - [info]yoshiko34, 2006-04-18 11:07 pm UTC

[info]spartan_sword
2006-04-18 05:07 pm UTC (link)
Look Jack, games have their own complex storylines, characters, etc., just like movies and TV shows, and therefore are protected speech.

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[info]skemodan
2006-04-18 05:14 pm UTC (link)
MOST games. Some games don't need them, like Tetris, I don't need a reason to do that, except that I crave it like it were crack. Or GTA, where the plot is probably irellevant.

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(no subject) - [info]jaykaos, 2006-04-18 07:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]skemodan, 2006-04-18 07:34 pm UTC
GoliathandJack.com
[info]majestic_12_x
2006-04-18 05:42 pm UTC (link)
Still not done with this are we? Maybe we should file goliathandjack.com under the same category as Duke Nukem: Forever.

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Re: GoliathandJack.com
[info]skemodan
2006-04-18 05:47 pm UTC (link)
It's jackandgoliath.com but that's ok, that's not finished either.

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Re: GoliathandJack.com - [info]kincyr, 2006-04-18 05:48 pm UTC
Re: GoliathandJack.com - [info]tconx, 2006-04-18 06:34 pm UTC
Re: GoliathandJack.com - [info]riffraff1138, 2006-04-18 09:02 pm UTC
Re: GoliathandJack.com - [info]zippydsmlee, 2006-04-18 11:23 pm UTC
Re: GoliathandJack.com - [info]lost_watcher, 2006-04-18 11:34 pm UTC
My prediction
[info]jabrwock
2006-04-18 06:13 pm UTC (link)
He'll justify it by saying he's not censoring video games, just controlling who can buy them.

So this will be the same. Newspapers can print all the filth they want, he'll only object when they hand a copy to a minor... Although he'll probably pretend that public pressure will keep that stuff out of kids hands... as if.

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Hooah, I'm a regular freaking Nostradamus
[info]jabrwock
2006-04-18 09:00 pm UTC (link)
These students are not minors

Uh huh.

Now how is he going to deal with kids reading the college newspaper?

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Why does it matter that we call ourselves pixelantes, Jack?
[info]mathsucks2
2006-04-18 06:28 pm UTC (link)
'Yankee Doodle' was first created by the British to make fun of Americans. But that didn't stop the Americans, did it? Besides, 'pixelante' implies we are lawless outlaws because of games, so to speak, and therefore the term is redundant and inapplicable anyway.

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Re: Why does it matter that we call ourselves pixelantes, Jack?
[info]jabrwock
2006-04-18 06:35 pm UTC (link)
He's just pissy that we're not all foaming at the mouth mad and calling him to threaten his life...

See that was the plan. If he gets enough death threats, he can claim he's being persectuted, it's an ego thing, he's trying to be a martyr, gets him noticed by the media.

So he goes out of his way to try to rile us up to the point where we'll behave exactly how he wants us to. And he's mad because it didn't work...

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Re: Why does it matter that we call ourselves pixelantes, Jack? - [info]tollwutig, 2006-04-18 07:24 pm UTC
Re: Why does it matter that we call ourselves pixelantes, Jack? - [info]origamifrog, 2006-04-18 09:16 pm UTC
Re: Why does it matter that we call ourselves pixelantes, Jack? - [info]pixelante_ninja, 2006-04-18 07:42 pm UTC
Re: Why does it matter that we call ourselves pixelantes, Jack? - [info]beacon80, 2006-04-18 08:08 pm UTC
Re: Why does it matter that we call ourselves pixelantes, Jack? - [info]jaykaos, 2006-04-18 08:13 pm UTC
Re: Why does it matter that we call ourselves pixelantes, Jack? - [info]thabor, 2006-04-18 10:32 pm UTC
Re: Why does it matter that we call ourselves pixelantes, Jack? - [info]beacon80, 2006-04-18 10:56 pm UTC

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