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@ 2006-03-31 07:36:00
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Entry tags:alex diaz de la portilla, cartoon violence, elmer fudd, florida, legislation, republicans, sb492

Elmer Fudd Stalls Florida Video Game Legislation

This is NOT an April Fool's gag...

Cartoon character Elmer Fudd - with a little help from Wiley Coyote - has accomplished what all of the video game industry's high-priced lawyers and lobbyists have so far been unable to do - stop a video game bill in its tracks.

Fudd, best known for ceaselessly hunting wascaly wabbits, was cited by the Bradenton Herald as the reason why Florida's SB492, sponsored by State Sen. Alex diaz de la Portilla (R), has been postponed.

It seems that some of Diaz de la Portilla's colleagues in the Florida Senate questioned whether the proposed legislation would affect games featuring cartoon violence and mayhem common in classic children's cartoons. Fudd and Wiley Coyote were specifically mentioned.

So it's back to the drawing board for Diaz de la Portilla as he hunts for legal language which would assure children could be spared the carnage of M-rated games while still being permitted to try and blow the Roadrunner to smithereens.

GP: All we can say is, "Meep-meep..."


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[info]liveordie2
2006-03-31 01:00 pm UTC (link)
Halo 2 is a game of the world of tomorrow and what the city of future will be like. And they say that it is bad for children?

It makes me cry if people are so stubborn to say things like that.

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[info]acroamatis
2006-03-31 07:36 pm UTC (link)
Halo 2 is clearly a fantasy, and the "world of tomorrow" seems, in a large way, to be apocalyptic. Xenophobic aliens who wish to destroy humanity, or to activate rings which will erase all sentient life in 25 000 lightyears? This hardly seems an accurate view of the future. Halo 2 cannot possibly be justified by suggesting that it gives an accurate view of the "world of tomorrow".

On the other hand, gore is extremely limited. Everything is in bright colours, which lends to the disconnection from reality. It is, as I said, clearly fantasy. It has a cooperative mode (which, in my mind, is the best improvement made on Halo). Any of these, I feel, would justify its use by children who demonstrated that they were mature enough to handle the concepts (as torture and genocide are implied or demonstrated on-screen during the game.)

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All I can say is WTF!!!!!
[info]yukimurasanada
2006-03-31 01:06 pm UTC (link)
You have got to be kidding me. It took this FUCKING long for someone in goverment to figure this shit out?

DAMN IT! Are they really THAT FUCKING STUPID!!!!.

ARRGHH! Nevermind.

I'm gonna go back to playing Elder SCrolls.

Thanks for the story dennis, great to hear that the bill is dead for the moment.

night all

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Re: All I can say is WTF!!!!!
[info]nightwng2000
2006-03-31 03:56 pm UTC (link)
Actually, I don't recall anyone here taking the idea of cartoon violence into consideration. TV and movies, yes, with the counterargument of "not interactive". But cartoon violence in video games... not that I recall.

I don't know about you, but that did escape me. But then, I'm not overly familiar with the Loony Toons games or others like them.

Though I am familiar with Pokemon, Yu-gi-oh, and Duel Masters (among a few others).

nightwng2000

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Re: All I can say is WTF!!!!! - [info]jabrwock, 2006-03-31 04:16 pm UTC
Re: All I can say is WTF!!!!! - [info]lordlundar, 2006-03-31 06:16 pm UTC

[info]chuma
2006-03-31 01:08 pm UTC (link)
I'm sure some of the posters here in GP made this exact same point immediately on viewing the legislation. I can't look back far enough to confirm this but I'm pretty sure the cartoon analogy was made.

Seems that us brain-dead gamers have yet again seen something that politicians and lawyers have missed.

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[info]marbledog
2006-03-31 02:11 pm UTC (link)
I believe that I may have said something to that effect.

It's an old story, and it's not going to go away any time soon. The difference between cartoon violence and graphic violence is not a matter of degree. It's a matter of personal preference. I truly believe that that is the entire impetus for the anti-game movement. They're trying to legislate taste.

meep, meep, indeed...

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(no subject) - [info]the1jeffy, 2006-03-31 03:40 pm UTC
agreed - [info]crazygir, 2006-03-31 05:43 pm UTC
Re: agreed - [info]the1jeffy, 2006-03-31 06:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]acroamatis, 2006-03-31 07:42 pm UTC
Basic Law of Economics
[info]seifd
2006-03-31 01:10 pm UTC (link)
The government takes more time and resources to do anything than the private sector does. I guess that includes reasoning as well.

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lol
[info]gelectrode
2006-03-31 01:15 pm UTC (link)
Ahhh yes. One does wonder why no one was able to bring "vauge wording" as a list of reasons to oppose video game legislation until now. And done so elegantly, too.

Who ever drew that connection is a genius. Wish we thought of that... ;)

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[info]liveordie2
2006-03-31 01:20 pm UTC (link)
I love playing science fiction games like Stubbs the Zombie (Future city called Punchbowl) and Halo 2.

Love the city of Halo 2 in the 22nd century, with cars hovering around and with robots and cyborg Master Chief!

I can't believe people can criticize Halo 2. I believe Halo 2 is also a depiction of what our city will look like in the future.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/22nd_century

There are more, you can click through 23rd (Could be end of the world or coming of Lord Jesus Christ),24th,25th,26th,27th,28th and more. You can check all of them out.

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[info]silver_derstin
2006-03-31 01:33 pm UTC (link)
I will acknowledge at this point that you are a blatant forum troll with little more to do then try to push your agendas on people. Halo 2 is NOT a clear representation of the future, or even one that is recognized as possible by the scientific elite or the science-fiction writer elite. It's a make belief game world, and your posts are not relevant AT ALL to the topic in question.

And please, stop thumping your bible around here. The "end of the world" is a hilarious flash cartoon, not an actual concept at this point. It was predicted so often by so many groups that it's not even funny anymore.

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(no subject) - [info]ino209, 2006-03-31 04:18 pm UTC
It's not when anyone does it, it's when *he* does it. - [info]nortelrye, 2006-03-31 06:48 pm UTC
Re: It's not when anyone does it, it's when *he* does it. - [info]ino209, 2006-03-31 09:14 pm UTC
Re: It's not when anyone does it, it's when *he* does it. - [info]nortelrye, 2006-04-01 08:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]samsoneffect, 2006-03-31 05:30 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]howdoyouplead, 2006-03-31 09:54 pm UTC

[info]wxdiva
2006-03-31 01:28 pm UTC (link)
We all know that watching Looney Toons doesn't train a child to kill. Elmer Fudd failed too many times. It does, however, teach a child how to use dynamite.

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[info]silver_derstin
2006-03-31 01:35 pm UTC (link)
The thing is, it doesn't represent using dynamite PROPERLY with THE REAL END RESULTS. So it should be banned as with all the video games that do not represent violence as something with consequences.

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(no subject) - [info]wxdiva, 2006-03-31 01:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tollwutig, 2006-03-31 01:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dagrak, 2006-03-31 01:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]wxdiva, 2006-03-31 03:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]silver_derstin, 2006-03-31 01:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]artheleron, 2006-03-31 02:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]wxdiva, 2006-03-31 03:22 pm UTC
Re: Meep Mepp! - [info]tollwutig, 2006-03-31 01:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jindewinter, 2006-03-31 06:38 pm UTC

[info]sir_bissel
2006-03-31 01:29 pm UTC (link)
That reminds me: There've been a serious lack of looney toons video games as of late.

I want some "Bugs Bunny Crazy Castle" or "Rabbit Rampage" platformers

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[info]sallizar
2006-03-31 01:32 pm UTC (link)
In honor of this I will play "Looney Tunes Space Race" on my Dreamcast tonight... After Kingdom Hearts II that is...

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[info]father_time89
2006-03-31 04:22 pm UTC (link)
I might also play Bugs Bunny lost and time, that game is a blast.

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[info]liveordie2
2006-03-31 01:33 pm UTC (link)
I love Bugs Bunny.

There is also a Looney Tunes 24th century also featuring a city of future,

"Duck Dodgers" featuring our wacky cartoon star Daffy.

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[info]dagrak
2006-03-31 01:48 pm UTC (link)
I'm fairly sure I hear Warner Bros was re-inventing the looney tunes into some sort of bizarre space themed thingy...but I might be wrong

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(no subject) - [info]ianc14, 2006-03-31 02:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dagrak, 2006-03-31 03:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]wxdiva, 2006-03-31 03:23 pm UTC
Guys... - [info]super_sonick, 2006-03-31 05:38 pm UTC
Re: Guys... - [info]circsation, 2006-03-31 08:24 pm UTC
Re: Guys... - [info]super_sonick, 2006-03-31 10:47 pm UTC
Meep Mepp!
[info]enmitywithin
2006-03-31 01:34 pm UTC (link)
*dies laughing* ha ha! you stupid governmental people!
getting elmer fudd to defend games, let's make him and Wile E Coyote the official mascots of us!(I'm not being sarcastic on the mascot thing)

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Re: Meep Mepp!
[info]tollwutig
2006-03-31 01:38 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, um i don't think we can pay the copywrite fees for Warner brothers characters, they're kinda expensive.

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About time..
[info]tollwutig
2006-03-31 01:37 pm UTC (link)
Politicians started thinking... at least some Politicians in Florida have a small amount of sense, even if it is slow to react.

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What makes me angry
[info]blitzfitness
2006-03-31 01:38 pm UTC (link)
is the fact that we all knew that the broadness would include things that the legislators curried favor of. These people are supposed to be educated, aware, and inquisitive, yet we are constantly beating them tot he punch on the most obvious of items.

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Expletive, but...
[info]startropics
2006-03-31 01:42 pm UTC (link)
Elmer Fudd for the motherfucking win.

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[info]liveordie2
2006-03-31 01:44 pm UTC (link)
ITs better than using Bugs Bunny carry a lightsaber to destroy the whole legistators. heheheh, good idea.

But hey, we are in reality. but these legistators harden their hearts! And cover their ears from truth. I feel sad for them.

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[info]beardoggx
2006-03-31 01:44 pm UTC (link)
Game, Set, Match.

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[info]nightwng2000
2006-03-31 06:07 pm UTC (link)
So does that make John Bruce Thompson the "John McEnroe" of this issue?
:)

nightwng2000

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Wow - [info]circsation, 2006-03-31 08:45 pm UTC
Re: Wow - [info]nightwng2000, 2006-04-01 12:19 am UTC
I just thought of something..
[info]tollwutig
2006-03-31 01:48 pm UTC (link)
Yes I know Elmer Fudd who is a Warner Bros. cartoon is cited, but one of the largest tax payers in Florida is Disney, who also often show cartoon violence. I wonder if they got wind of this and raised the flags... I'm pretty sure they have a few strings tied to Florida Legislators.

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Re: I just thought of something..
[info]silver_derstin
2006-03-31 01:57 pm UTC (link)
Dysney shows violence, hate speech, racism, sexism... A good parent would never let their kids watch some of the Dysney movies (especially Pocahontas and Beauty and the Beast).

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Re: I just thought of something.. - [info]artheleron, 2006-03-31 02:47 pm UTC
Re: I just thought of something.. - [info]origamifrog, 2006-03-31 05:53 pm UTC

[info]soliloquy76
2006-03-31 01:58 pm UTC (link)

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[info]illspirit
2006-03-31 01:58 pm UTC (link)
If you listen closely, you can almost hear the penny drop. Now that they've realized the definition of violence they're trying to shield children from exists in cartoons, how long before they remember it's in movies and books as well?

And how do they plan to fix this? Do they intend to go back, edit the law with a crayon, and scribble something in the margins like "...unless the violence is in cartoons, because that's just dandy?" By doing that, or, well, even singling out games to begin with, they're just begging to be smacked in the face with the Fourteenth Amendment.

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Egads...
[info]startropics
2006-03-31 02:48 pm UTC (link)
He's right! People are being shot, assaulted, maimed, cut into pieces, and insulted! And I'm referring to Loony Toons and not GTA!

I figure it'll be like when a guy finds out his hooker's really a dude; he just stands up, recomposes himself and walks away.

Or beats the crap out of him with his GTA training.

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[info]madikai
2006-03-31 02:57 pm UTC (link)
Now, imagine what will happen when they discover Tex Avery... (Yeah, movies and all that, but, baby steps, baby steps)

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[info]rhanlav
2006-03-31 03:34 pm UTC (link)
Haha! Thats so awesome, it hurts! Oh noez! You can't put your finger in the barrel of a gun and have it explode on the shooter. Nono! You can't do that in video games! Its far to violent. *snickers* Hehehehe. So, I guess next they'll be suggesting we can't have giant boulders roll down mountains to crush our enemies next. Most likely they'd censor it so the boulder wouldn't really roll down the hill till your opponent had left your well placed birdseed trap and then you were standing on it. Or under it. ^_^

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I think I found JT's problem
[info]tollwutig
2006-03-31 03:45 pm UTC (link)
It's apparently Florida... I found someone as loony as him

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashida_Kim
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ashida_Kim

If you do a little looking around you'll find this guy is as nutty and as belligerent as JT

I hate not having an edit feature.

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Re: I think I found JT's problem
[info]ianc14
2006-03-31 03:59 pm UTC (link)
Bloody hell that guy is insane.

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Is there something in the water in Florida? :P - [info]jabrwock, 2006-03-31 04:22 pm UTC

[info]i_iv_v
2006-03-31 03:53 pm UTC (link)
I love being from Florida!

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New legislation proposed in Florida
[info]bm03
2006-03-31 05:43 pm UTC (link)
...under the new legislation, SB782, anvils are no longer to be sold to people under the age of 21, as well as oversized magnets, or paint if it is believed to be used to paint a tunnel on the side of a cliff...

/b

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Re: New legislation proposed in Florida
[info]tollwutig
2006-03-31 05:52 pm UTC (link)
Not to mention roller skates with large bottle rockets attached.

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Re: New legislation proposed in Florida - [info]psyco_chick32, 2006-03-31 07:35 pm UTC
Re: New legislation proposed in Florida - [info]sabin_blitz, 2006-04-01 06:02 am UTC
Memories
[info]hilaryduffgta
2006-03-31 08:12 pm UTC (link)
"So it's back to the drawing board for Diaz de la Portilla as he hunts for legal language which would assure children could be spared the carnage of M-rated games while still being permitted to try and blow the Roadrunner to smithereens"


ahhh memories i remember looney tunes and watching Elmer fudd shoot himself in the ass after bugs tied the gun in a bow.or watching wile e coyote go flying off the cliff while wearing rocket shoes or getting hit by a train after painting a rock so it looks like a tunnel.

They are Cartoons its not real just like video games

DId you ever think that these people pull this shit off because they figure since they have a miserable life everyone else should too

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