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Alabama Top Court Denies Industry Motion to Dismiss GTA Killer Suit

The Associated Press is reporting that the Alabama Supreme has rejected an appeal by video game industry defendants to dismiss the so-called "GTA Killer" case in which 18-year-old GTA gamer Devin Moore killed two police officers and a police dispatcher. Upon his arrest, Moore told investigators, "Life is like a video game; everybody has to die sometime."

In November, Fayette County Judge James Moore rejected the industry's motion for summary judgment (i.e. - dismissal) in the $600 million suit brought against Sony, Take-Two, Wal-Mart and GameStop. Lawyers for the game companies appealed Moore's decision to the state Supreme Court, which backed the circuit judge, who has been described to GP by one knowledgeable observer as a firm but fair old school conservative.

The justices issued their decision without comment, which will allow the case to proceed to trial. The court did, however, agree to hear arguments from the game industry as to whether Alabama courts have the power to hear the case, Strickland vs. Sony.




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heh
[info]enmitywithin
2006-03-30 12:30 am UTC (link)
well isn't this just expected that JT will claim that it was because of him?

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Re: heh
[info]nightwng2000
2006-03-30 01:40 am UTC (link)
He pretty much already did.

nightwng2000

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[info]beardoggx
2006-03-30 12:31 am UTC (link)
The court did, however, agree to hear arguments from the game industry as to whether Alabama courts have the power to hear the case, Strickland vs. Sony.

The issue of whether or not the case will actually go to trial is far from over, it seems. Plus, there's also the possibility that the federal courts could reverse Judge Moore's decision to allow the case(meritless as it is, as it's nothing more than a publicity stunt) to go to trial. So be prepared for a long wait. As I understand, the trial won't happen for another year from now anyway.

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[info]nightwng2000
2006-03-30 01:43 am UTC (link)
So much for swift justice. Maybe Justice needs to peek out under the blindfold once and awhile and say "What the h**l's taking so long?"

nightwng2000

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wow
[info]nitkin1
2006-03-30 12:31 am UTC (link)
this is stupid, obviously the kid is crazy. dont blame video games, he needs to be responsable for his actions, he killed 2 men, he needs to be punished for that. if a soldier kills someone after he has been dismissed is the army held accountable even though they trained him? NO!

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Re: wow
[info]semperar
2006-03-30 12:47 am UTC (link)
That's actually a very interesting argument. I don't know why I never thought about it before.

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Re: wow - [info]bigman_k, 2006-03-30 01:08 am UTC
Re: wow - [info]semperar, 2006-03-30 01:22 am UTC
Re: wow - [info]nitkin1, 2006-03-30 01:28 am UTC
Re: wow - [info]gatz111085, 2006-03-30 02:42 am UTC
Re: wow - [info]nightwng2000, 2006-03-30 01:51 am UTC
Re: wow - [info]nightwng2000, 2006-03-30 01:47 am UTC
Re: wow - [info]beardedferret, 2006-03-30 03:22 am UTC
Re: wow - [info]nightwng2000, 2006-03-30 04:10 am UTC
Re: wow - [info]startropics, 2006-03-30 01:49 am UTC
Re: wow - [info]the1jeffy, 2006-03-30 02:04 am UTC

[info]poet_ninja
2006-03-30 12:34 am UTC (link)
*record squelch noise*

Okay, hold it, hold it: This article states that Moore was 18 at the time. Glancing over the time of his crime, and the release date for Vice City, there's some question in my mind how he could possibly have been considered a "minor" in possession of that game.

Ever.

Are there more details available here which I'm not finding in the easy sources (such as Wikipedia), or is the definition of "minor" being stretched to include an 18 year old for this lawsuit?

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[info]beardedferret
2006-03-30 12:45 am UTC (link)
That's a damn good point Mr Ninja. Surely as an adult Moore made an adult decision to buy and play GTA? As he made an (admittedly less) adult decision to kill three cops and blame video games.

What's the bet the guy heard of Thompson's insane crusade before he did it, remembered it in the interview room and decided to try a last ditch defence? Either he did, or his lawyer did. Easy money.

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(no subject) - [info]the1jeffy, 2006-03-30 02:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kharne83, 2006-03-30 03:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]illspirit, 2006-03-30 02:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jabrwock, 2006-03-30 02:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]poet_ninja, 2006-03-30 06:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]illspirit, 2006-03-30 01:38 pm UTC
This is hardly a victory
[info]beardedferret
2006-03-30 12:40 am UTC (link)
So the case isn't going to get dismissed yet. Big deal. It's hardly worth celebrating, especially for a 'lawyer' who got thrown off the case by the judge.

What's interesting, and something I never noticed before, is that they're suing Wal-Mart AND Gamestop. Why? Unless the guy bought a copy of Vice City from each retailer, how are they equally culpable?

Well, not culpable, obviously. God forbid we should sell an 18 year old a video game.

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Re: This is hardly a victory
[info]pixelantesanon
2006-03-30 12:52 am UTC (link)
"Why? Unless the guy bought a copy of Vice City from each retailer, how are they equally culpable? "

The ambulance chasers are hedging their best. Sue as many entities as possible to increase your chances of getting paid.

Simple really.

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Re: This is hardly a victory - [info]beardoggx, 2006-03-30 12:58 am UTC
Re: This is hardly a victory - [info]startropics, 2006-03-30 01:04 am UTC
Re: This is hardly a victory - [info]jdmdsp911, 2006-03-30 01:09 am UTC
They still have to prove...
[info]startropics
2006-03-30 12:55 am UTC (link)
...how you can murder someone using training from a video game.

I don't mean to completely disrespect Devin Moore's victims, but if you can whack two cops and a dispatcher with no training outside of GTA: Vice City, just what does that say about the state of law enforcement? That athletic men and women trained in firearms and combat can be defeated easily by someone who's played more than 30 hours of any GTA?

Christ, they might as well just train cops on that if it's the case.

I can see why Jack Thompson is excited; and it's warranted, it's his first kinda-sorta victory since when was the wheel invented?

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Re: They still have to prove...
[info]beardoggx
2006-03-30 01:02 am UTC (link)
Christ, they might as well just train cops on that if it's the case.

Ron White said something similiar on "They Call Me Tater Salad". Give the cops a roll of quarters and drop them off at the mall.

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From someone who works as a dispatcher - [info]jdmdsp911, 2006-03-30 01:17 am UTC
Re: From someone who works as a dispatcher - [info]startropics, 2006-03-30 01:22 am UTC
Re: From someone who works as a dispatcher - [info]poet_ninja, 2006-03-30 06:49 am UTC
Re: From someone who works as a dispatcher - [info]jdmdsp911, 2006-03-30 11:10 am UTC

[info]bigman_k
2006-03-30 12:58 am UTC (link)
This sucks but i asmume they'll appeal it to the Federal court circuit. State courts aren't very pro-free speech.

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[info]bigman_k
2006-03-30 01:03 am UTC (link)
..."The families contended that free-speech rights do not protect the sale of mature-rated video games to minors."...

Actually, Yes they do, and even if they didn't, the person who commited these crimes was 18 years old when he did them. So he was legally an adult. So this case has nothing to do with minors and M rated video games.

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[info]startropics
2006-03-30 01:12 am UTC (link)
It's hard to show compassion towards the victims' families when they're allowing a dirtbag to help them cash in on their loved ones. Yes, it's a tragedy that they were killed; No it's not the fault of Rockstar and Take Two and Walmart and Gamespot and Jesus and Israel and the starting lineup for the New England Patriots.

People take ideas from all parts of their lives, in all forms of media. If I read Moby Dick about 20 times in a row and go out and singlehandidly decimate the world's whale population, does that mean Herman Melville is liable for it?

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[info]angry_man
2006-03-30 01:09 am UTC (link)
OMG HE SAID "Life is like a video game; everybody has to die sometime."

THAT METAPHOR MEANS VIDEO GAMES MADE HIM DO IT. CALL JT, QUICK!

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Well, if you think about it enough...
[info]startropics
2006-03-30 01:14 am UTC (link)
Life IS a video game.

-You only get one life. The programmers really fucked us on this one.
-You interact with other characters
-You either overcome or succumb to advesary.
-Really awesome graphics.
-Plus it has really outlandish storylines. An evil empire of "powerful" men and women trying to instill their own agenda upon a helpless world? That could never happen in real life.

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Re: Well, if you think about it enough... - [info]angry_man, 2006-03-30 01:23 am UTC
Re: Well, if you think about it enough... - [info]startropics, 2006-03-30 01:31 am UTC
Re: Well, if you think about it enough... - [info]the1jeffy, 2006-03-30 02:10 am UTC
Re: Well, if you think about it enough... - [info]origamifrog, 2006-03-30 01:59 am UTC
Re: Well, if you think about it enough... - [info]andreuswolf, 2006-03-31 06:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]beardoggx, 2006-03-30 01:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]angry_man, 2006-03-30 01:23 am UTC
So many questions
[info]panicbutton42
2006-03-30 01:20 am UTC (link)
"'No one has ever before survived a motion to dismiss, so we're excited,' said attorney Jack Thompson of Miami."

Now, hasn't it been stated that dismissal of a case at this juncture is actually rare. I mean I know John is definetely not the go-to-guy for reliable facts, I just want to make sure that I am not crazy and that I did in-fact read that.


The Supreme Court's decision Friday let stand a ruling by a circuit judge who rejected claims by the companies that they had a right under the First Amendment to sell the games.

The families contended that free-speech rights do not protect the sale of mature-rated video games to minors.


I thought that the 2001 7th Circuit ruling and the 2003 8th Circuit ruling, at least in part, covered things like Video Games under the 1st Ammendment.


My last question is for anyone, aside from John, who has a decent grasp of law. What kind of precedent does this ruling set, especially since it would appear to fly in the face of prior precedent.

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Re: So many questions
[info]startropics
2006-03-30 01:32 am UTC (link)
Well at this stage it's hard for it to set precedent since all it's saying is that "We'll deny this lawsuit the oppertunity to be shot down before it can begin for now".

But in an alternate reality where by dumb luck a case like this would succeed, then free speech would be dead. If videogames, a medium of expression can be blamed for violence, then all other mediums can, be it TV, film, radio, music, literature, or the like, because then people could cite the precedent set by the court.

The only upside I can think of is that Nazis would finally have to shut the hell up, but I think I'd rather hear their waste of noise than go without the right to say whatever the hell you want and the offended peoples be damned.

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what actually happened - [info]jabrwock, 2006-03-30 01:35 am UTC
Re: what actually happened - [info]panicbutton42, 2006-03-30 02:02 am UTC
Re: what actually happened - [info]cyn1c42, 2006-03-30 02:14 am UTC
Re: what actually happened - [info]dreamshade, 2006-03-30 09:17 am UTC
Re: what actually happened - [info]cyn1c42, 2006-03-30 09:15 pm UTC
Re: what actually happened - [info]dreamshade, 2006-03-31 06:09 am UTC
Re: what actually happened - [info]cyn1c42, 2006-03-31 09:12 pm UTC
Re: what actually happened - [info]jabrwock, 2006-03-30 02:35 am UTC
Re: Well, if you think about it enough...
[info]finaleve
2006-03-30 01:32 am UTC (link)
Still baffled that 2 stores are getting sued.

The judge trying to get things straightend out first, before its gametime. I mean, thankfully, he got rid of someone that would spit nothing but shit all over the place. Now the judge wants to hear why the defendants want to stop the case. At least the judge seems to be a good judge.

I wonder why they want to stop it though. From the evidence we have now, they have a win, but maybe we are missing something.

If only phoenix wright was here /badjoke

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Re: Well, if you think about it enough...
[info]jabrwock
2006-03-30 01:37 am UTC (link)
I wonder why they want to stop it though. From the evidence we have now, they have a win, but maybe we are missing something.

a) save time & effort & money
b) set precedent so that further cases can be dismissed for the same reason

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Re: Well, if you think about it enough... - [info]brianj012, 2006-03-30 02:51 am UTC
Re: Well, if you think about it enough... - [info]lordwank, 2006-03-30 03:59 am UTC
Re: Well, if you think about it enough... - [info]finaleve, 2006-03-30 04:05 am UTC
As the_attorney so nicely put it...
[info]jabrwock
2006-03-30 01:32 am UTC (link)
http://gamepolitics.livejournal.com/244288.html?thread=18275392#t18275392

The denial of dismissal was a no-brainer. the_attorney explained it nicely:

The standard for dismissal of a case without any substantive hearings (aka - summary judgment) is VASTLY higher than "a preponderance of the evidence" (which is the usual standard when figuring out who wins or loses at trial)... Therefore, it is almost always better to reserve judgment or deny a SJ motion unless it is clear that "no reasonable person" examining the facts as outlined by the opposing party (that's the key part. The judge has to assume that the facts alleged by the opposition are true.) could view it otherwise. So basically, unless the facts you present have no hope at all of proving any part of your case (i.e. - A Rainbow stole my wallet), a judge will deny that motion.

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[info]xenosphobatic
2006-03-30 01:37 am UTC (link)
Hay, guis, where's the square button on this pistol?

I mean, jesus, the only thing GTA trains you to do is push buttons. The VIOLENCE SIMULATOR that they adamently claim TRAINS YOUNG PEOPLE TO KILL AND COMMIT VIOLENT ACTS gives almost no tactile feedback, handles nothing like a firearm or any other weapon for that matter, and, let's face it, police don't come from just outside of fog range.

Thus, GTA fails at reality.

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[info]startropics
2006-03-30 01:57 am UTC (link)
According to GTA, I have to shoot someone with a Colt .45 about four times before they'll so much as fall down. And I'm talking about common pedestrians here.

I'm going out on a limb here but I don't think it works like that in real life. So far everybody that I've asked to be a part of that experiment have taked out restraining orders against me.

PRE-EMPTIVE DISCLAIMER SO JACK THOMPSON DOESN'T MAKE A CHILDISH COMMENT LIKE "HAHAHA NOBODY LIKES GAMERS THAT'S WHY THEY MUST RESTRAIN YOU": The above paragraph is of a ficticious and exaggerated nature and did not actually happen. Thank you.

A SECOND DISCLAIMER SO JACK THOMPSON DOESN'T MISTAKE WHAT PART OF THE AFOREMENTIONED PARAGRAPH WAS MADE UP: The part of that statement that was made up was the part about talking about people and getting restraining orders. The statement about guns not working like that in real life is the only truth in that statement. Thank you.

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(no subject) - [info]xenosphobatic, 2006-03-30 02:12 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]howdoyouplead, 2006-03-30 03:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]finaleve, 2006-03-30 04:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]poet_ninja, 2006-03-30 06:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ace_ofspade, 2006-03-30 04:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]xenosphobatic, 2006-03-30 06:01 am UTC
Feedback my fucking ass - [info]hilaryduffgta, 2006-03-30 04:32 pm UTC

[info]blue_exocet
2006-03-30 01:53 am UTC (link)
I asked my brother about this too. I was confused about "how is it possible to play FPS's, and GTA then become a master marksman with no prior experience on an actual firearm?"

The thing was that video games increase your accuracy (also relefexes and hand-eye coordination). Still, one needs to practice with actual firewars to be somewhat decent.

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I dunno about accuracy...
[info]startropics
2006-03-30 02:00 am UTC (link)
Novice shooters would still have shakes and may not aim properly, plus if we're talking about long-range shooting then there's still a whole other slew of factors that can bugger up accuracy.

I've played plenty of gun games both unrealistic and tactical; does that mean I could shoot a guy in the left eye socket from about 500 miles away with a rifle? Probably not.

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Re: I dunno about accuracy... - [info]panicbutton42, 2006-03-30 02:12 am UTC
Re: I dunno about accuracy... - [info]xenosphobatic, 2006-03-30 02:16 am UTC
Re: I dunno about accuracy... - [info]klokwurk, 2006-03-30 03:07 am UTC
Re: I dunno about accuracy... - [info]xenosphobatic, 2006-03-30 06:03 am UTC
I are a good shooter - [info]kharne83, 2006-03-30 11:53 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]xenosphobatic, 2006-03-30 02:13 am UTC
Very True - [info]beardedferret, 2006-03-30 03:09 am UTC
Re: Very True - [info]panicbutton42, 2006-03-30 10:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]howdoyouplead, 2006-03-30 03:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]poet_ninja, 2006-03-30 06:55 am UTC
Please correct if I'm wrong
[info]gdex86
2006-03-30 02:27 am UTC (link)
Rule one of Game Politics: When the troll shows up do not feed him.

Secondly, while getting a trial past a dismisal is a long way from it.

Reguardless of the outcome I expect whichever side comes out losing is going to force this to the next higher court. I think the arguments are whats going to be interesting. I don't presume to know much about law more then what I can absorb from a program that used to star Jerry Orbock, but for the suit they'd have to prove something to the effect that Sony, Take Two, Wal-Mart, and Gamestop knew of the possible effect, and more then just one lone psycho. Also wouldn't Moores mental state be at question too. Since if he was a schizophrenic, out of touch with reality, or even sociopathic before hand that drops the value fo the claim.

Also wouldn't it open the door to people who were inspired by books like american psycho to sue people like borders and the publisher because they knew the content of the book and sold it anyways.

The familys of those who were killed definatly do have a wrongful death suit that they could presue, but the idea that one mission in one game was the reason that three people are dead I find .... Not a proper way to put it and still be respectful to the familes.

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Re: Please correct if I'm wrong
[info]the1jeffy
2006-03-30 02:31 am UTC (link)
Actually the unofficial rule is: Don't talk about that troll at all. But do not feed him works, too.

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Re: Please correct if I'm wrong - [info]i_iv_v, 2006-03-30 02:44 am UTC
Re: Please correct if I'm wrong - [info]gatz111085, 2006-03-30 02:48 am UTC
Re: Please correct if I'm wrong - [info]gatz111085, 2006-03-30 02:47 am UTC
Re: Please correct if I'm wrong - [info]suigin_kou, 2006-03-30 04:26 am UTC
I have carpal tunnel syndrome.
[info]pelka64
2006-03-30 02:47 am UTC (link)
ZOMG! VIDYA GAMES DONE IT!

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If Video Games Are responsible for Moore...
[info]blackcat914
2006-03-30 01:03 pm UTC (link)
Is the Bible and Church responsable for this?

http://www.nbc5.com/family/8344652/detail.html

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Re: If Video Games Are responsible for Moore...
[info]beardoggx
2006-03-30 01:39 pm UTC (link)
Yep.

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Re: If Video Games Are responsible for Moore... - [info]illspirit, 2006-03-30 02:00 pm UTC
Re: If Video Games Are responsible for Moore... - [info]godofyouall, 2006-03-30 02:06 pm UTC
Re: If Video Games Are responsible for Moore... - [info]jdmdsp911, 2006-03-30 09:12 pm UTC
Devin Moore should Die & so should all the video game slurs with him.
[info]godofyouall
2006-03-30 01:55 pm UTC (link)
Honestly this is nothing to worry about.

Judge Moore is not gonna toss out a million dollar suit without at least hearing both sides of the argument. Obviously Judge Moore is not going to deny the suit because that way when it does eventually get rejected nobody can question or deny that it was a fair trial.

Judge Moore has already made it very clear that he doesn't buy into the "video games made me do it" excuse as he already sentenced Devin Moore to death and this defense was already tried and tossed out in the criminal trial. Also historically nobody has won a single case similar to this.

Jack Thompson and the other idiots training to cash in on this tragedy (including family members of the victims) IMHO are just sick bastards. It is ridiculous to think that games companies and retailers should be forced to pay compensation for another persons crimes. Especially as Devin Moore was an adult at the time of the crime.

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Re: Devin Moore should Die & so should all the video game slurs with him.
[info]jindewinter
2006-03-30 03:33 pm UTC (link)
"Jack Thompson and the other idiots training to cash in on this tragedy (including family members of the victims) IMHO are just sick bastards. It is ridiculous to think that games companies and retailers should be forced to pay compensation for another persons crimes. Especially as Devin Moore was an adult at the time of the crime."

Unfortunetly money corrupts people way too easily, and when people are in in a state of mourning they sometimes try and find something to blame for the death of a loved on. People like JT provide an all too easy scapegoat for them to attack, and it isn't because he cares it is because he wants to get his face out in the media more as a "good guy" just to cover up the truth of how much of a douche he really is.

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Jack Thompson: We're Going to Trial
[info]dirtryou
2006-03-30 03:14 pm UTC (link)


Court rejects appeal in Alabama suit blaming game for slayings
3/29/2006, 2:52 p.m. ET
By JAY REEVES
The Associated Press


BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (AP) — The Alabama Supreme Court rejected an appeal by video game makers and sellers who asked a judge to throw out a $600 million lawsuit blaming the popular game "Grand Theft Auto" for the murders of the three-person night shift of a rural police department.

Ruling without comment, the justices denied the companies' appeal of the trial judge's decision not to dismiss the suit, filed in state court over the slayings of two police officers and a radio dispatcher in 2003 in the northwest Alabama city of Fayette.

The Supreme Court, however, agreed to hear the video gtame manufacturers' claims challenging whether Alabama courts have the power to hear the case, court officials said Wednesday.

The suit was filed by relatives of the three men shot to death by a teenager who has since been sentenced to death. It claims the murders mimicked video violence in "Grand Theft Auto," which attorneys said the shooter played obsessively.

The companies deny any link between the game and the slayings.

A lawyer for the victims' families said the Supreme Court's refusal to grant an appeal set the stage for what could be the nation's first trial over killings blamed on video games, perhaps as early as January.

"No one has ever before survived a motion to dismiss, so we're excited," said attorney Jack Thompson of Miami.

A representative of game manufacturer Take-Two Interactive Software Inc. did not immediately return a message seeking comment.

The families filed suit against Take-Two Interactive and subsidiary Rockstar Games Inc.; Sony, which manufactures the PlayStation game systems; and two stores where Moore allegedly bought games, Wal-Mart and Gamestop in Jasper.

The Supreme Court's decision Friday let stand a ruling by a circuit judge who rejected claims by the companies that they had a right under the First Amendment to sell the games.

The families contended that free-speech rights do not protect the sale of mature-rated video games to minors.

Evidence showed Devin Moore, 18 at the time, grabbed an officer's gun and started shooting inside the Fayette Police Department, where he was being booked on suspicion of car theft in June 2003. Killed were officers Arnold Strickland, 55, and James Crump, 40, and dispatcher Leslie "Ace" Mealer, 38.

A judge last year sentenced Moore to death for the slayings after barring his defense from linking the shootings to violent video games.

But relatives of the men filed suit blaming the killings on Moore's repeated playing of two games in the "Grand Theft Auto" series, in which players can shoot police officers. Evidence showed Moore told investigators after his arrest: "Life is a video game; everybody has to die sometime."


Copyright 2006 Associated Press. All rights reserved.
This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
© 2006 al.com All Rights Reserved.

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Re: Jack Thompson: We're Going to Trial
[info]jindewinter
2006-03-30 03:30 pm UTC (link)
Jack weren't you barred from that case? How in the hell can you say WE when you are not even allowed to be involved in it? It sickens me that you approach people in a weakend state when they are mourning the loss of their loved ones and fill their heads with this shit and tempt them with money if they will sue the evil game companies. You sir are one disgusting, hatefull and racist person.

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Re: Jack Thompson: We're Going to Trial - [info]aismodel, 2006-03-30 04:27 pm UTC
Re: Jack Thompson: We're Going to Trial - [info]aismodel, 2006-03-30 04:28 pm UTC
Sure, just not the one you want to - [info]the_attorney, 2006-03-30 03:42 pm UTC
Re: Sure, just not the one you want to - [info]jdmdsp911, 2006-03-30 09:19 pm UTC
Re: Jack Thompson's not going to Trial - [info]godofyouall, 2006-03-30 03:54 pm UTC
Re: Jack Thompson's not going to Trial - [info]dog_welder, 2006-03-30 04:08 pm UTC
Re: Jack Thompson's not going to Trial - [info]ianc14, 2006-03-30 04:29 pm UTC
Shouldn't that be "THEY'RE Going to Trial"? - [info]markstandridge, 2006-03-30 04:16 pm UTC
Re: Jack Thompson: We're Going to Trial - [info]l0que, 2006-03-30 05:06 pm UTC
"We" would include you... And you got kicked out remember?
[info]duncan_922
2006-03-30 03:31 pm UTC (link)
I bet that one still hurts! Give it up junior! If Rockstar goes down, it's because of everyone BUT you! Hooah!

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Correct me if i am wrong
[info]hilaryduffgta
2006-03-30 04:34 pm UTC (link)
But did Ms Jacky just violate copy right infringmint or something of that nature

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Re: Correct me if i am wrong
[info]jindewinter
2006-03-30 04:36 pm UTC (link)
lol I just thought the same thing, but I guess if you are Jack those things don't apply to you.

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Re: Correct me if i am wrong - [info]hilaryduffgta, 2006-03-30 04:44 pm UTC
Re: Correct me if i am wrong - [info]ianc14, 2006-03-30 05:11 pm UTC
Re: Correct me if i am wrong - [info]hilaryduffgta, 2006-03-30 05:30 pm UTC
Re: Correct me if i am wrong - [info]godofyouall, 2006-03-30 05:37 pm UTC
never ceases to amaze me
[info]appledude211
2006-03-30 06:32 pm UTC (link)

"We're" going to trial? You got kicked off monthes ago.

Logic must be heresy to him.

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I wouldn't read too much into this "victory"
[info]jdmdsp911
2006-03-30 09:45 pm UTC (link)
The "lawyer" hasn't won anything. For one as we all know, the "lawyer" isn't even part of this case anymore. I wonder if Judge Moore knows about his latest antics, and if he doesn't, I wonder what he would say if he was shown. Also, I'm kinda glad the dismissal was denied. The reason I'm glad is because even though this is going to be a complete waste of taxpayer money, both sides get to place their arguments, and a decision will be made, thus creating even more precedent in the matter.

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[info]bugashi
2006-03-31 03:13 am UTC (link)
The justices issued their decision without comment

I don't know about you, but I have a problem with this. Any reason as to why this case is going on as it is? "They sold the game to a minor", ok we get the deal, that was the fault. So why is it at this extreme? "Murder simulators teach kids to kill", only if the pairents allow them to play it.

Really, the only fault I can find is the sale to the minor and even at that it may still have been legal at the time. Sony had nothing to do with the game, just as much as Rockstar had little to nothing to do with the people who sold the game. If you still think otherwise then please sue Suncoast, Sam Goodie, Borders, NBC and any other outlet of any movies, music, books, or any other form of entertainment which feature or are based on some form of illegal act of any way shape size form or measure.

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