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Entry tags:bully, frank bolanos, jack thompson, miami-dade school board

Miami School Board Waters Down Thompson's Bully Bill

The Miami-Dade School Board today passed what the Miami Herald describes as a "watered-down" version of the resolution against Rockstar's upcoming Bully (screen shot at left). The idea for the school board to take action against the game was originally proposed by our old pal Jack Thompson.

Board member Frank Bolanos, the school board member who officially sponsored the resolution, described Bully as "violence of the worst kind."

GP: Based on that comment, it's clear Bolanos has never played Postal 2...

The original language in the resolution called for local retailers not to carry the game and parents not to buy it for their children. However amendments added during today's vote substantially weakened the resolution's bite.

As passed, the resolution urges retailers not to sell Bully to minors (so, simply follow the ESRB ratings, then) and directed the school district to distribute information to parents on "on the potential harmful effects to children of playing interactive video games containing violence."

Local student Alexander Robel opposed the school board resolution in any fashion, comparing it to censorship of controversial literature such as Catcher in the Rye .

"We have never hurt other students," Robel said. "It is no surprise to me that the school board in my very own county would fall into the trap of pointing fingers and assigning blame."

GP: Tough break for Jack's anti-game crusade when he can't get the full-strength version of the resolution passed in his own backyard.




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[info]al_gorithm
2006-03-15 11:53 pm UTC (link)
HOOAH!

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Not so fast
[info]open_sketchbook
2006-03-16 12:04 am UTC (link)
The second part of this is to "educate" parents about the harmful effects of videogames! This will not go well, as it will be turned into support for any futher anti-videogame movement.

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[info]markusdragon
2006-03-16 12:01 am UTC (link)
People actually realising that adults should be allowed to play what they want - 1, Contraversial Miami Lawyer - 0

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Let's just pass....
[info]goodrobotus
2006-03-16 12:01 am UTC (link)
Something to shut that damn lawyer up....

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[info]gasperskeltner
2006-03-16 12:03 am UTC (link)
I Can See It Now...
by Steve Keltner, Pittsburg, Kansas

"But I'm Jack Thompson! Jack Thompson demands appeasment! Jack Thompson does not care for anything except Jack Thompson's vendetta against Rock Star and Take Two! Jack Thompson demans Gamepolitics change it's URL to www.JackThompsonisbiggerthenjesus.com! If not, Jack Thompson will sue! Jack Thompson! Jack Thompson!" Says John Bruce as he stomps up and down on a copy of Grand Theft Auto 2.

A gavel bangs.

"The board does not recognize Mr. Thompson's outburst. Mr. Thompson, if you can't conduct yourself accordingly-"

"Jack Thompson will make you rue the day-"

"Someone get that nobody out of here!" Cries the chairman of the School Board. John Bruce is immediately grabbed by several parents and let out of the assembly hall.



This is satire of a public figure. Try and sue me Johnny B.

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[info]tabor_tooth
2006-03-16 12:12 am UTC (link)
Reminds me of when Family Guy made fun of Bob Dole.

"Bob Dole is a friend of the tobbaco company. Bob Dole. Bob Dole. Bob Dole...Bob Dole....Bob D...

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(no subject) - [info]father_time89, 2006-03-16 12:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]traiklin, 2006-03-16 02:33 am UTC

[info]auralknight
2006-03-16 12:04 am UTC (link)
That last bit about the bill not being it's full strength seemed a bit unneccessary...

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[info]goodrobotus
2006-03-16 12:13 am UTC (link)
I think Jack earned it after his 'Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...You're next McAuley!' Email, to be honest.

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[info]angry_man
2006-03-16 12:05 am UTC (link)
Yarrrrrrr! Jackbeard the Pirate shall not be stopped! Ye scurvy dogs at GamePolitics don't speak the truth! Me and me hearties will pillage to stop Bully from being sold if we must! Yar har! Hooah!

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let's leave other violent games out of this...
[info]mrmunkeepants
2006-03-16 12:06 am UTC (link)
"violence of the worst kind."
Based on that comment, it is also clear Bolanos has never heard of Matthew Sheppard, Kosovo, Darfur, Hiroshima, or the Holocaust... yes, Bully is in poor taste, but school boards like this one should concentrate more on helping students in their schools succeed and less on shouting about whatever this year's model of the Handbasket is.

yes, the handbasket this country is going to hell in... crappy video games (like crappy movies) are not the worst of America's problems.

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Re: let's leave other violent games out of this...
[info]trencher
2006-03-16 10:27 pm UTC (link)
Nope, but it sure takes the heat off of the "important" things like Heathcare, Homelessness, War and Terrorists... If everyone is thinking videogames, who has time for those "useless" things?

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[info]jdmdsp911
2006-03-16 12:11 am UTC (link)
Glad to see thompson not get his way. What I would really like to see though is the school board work with the industry to help parents understand the ESRB ratings and making informed decisions about the games they buy their children.

Of course, knowing what I know and have seen in my short 28 years on this planet, the stupid won't care and still buy the game for their children anyway.

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and they will do it because
[info]hilaryduffgta
2006-03-16 12:24 am UTC (link)
they want their kids to have the "cool" games and not the "Kiddy" games

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(no subject) - [info]traiklin, 2006-03-16 02:44 am UTC

[info]silver_derstin
2006-03-16 12:11 am UTC (link)
"distribute information to parents on 'on the potential harmful effects to children of playing interactive video games containing violence.'"

Would you like a bias with that? If they want to distribute something, they'd need to distribute a pamphlet made by professionals from the industry, not lunatic lawyers.

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[info]schizmo
2006-03-16 12:13 am UTC (link)
So basically the whole bill is pointless?

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[info]beardedferret
2006-03-16 12:23 am UTC (link)
Sounds like it. It's basically a bill asking retailers to keep doing what they should already be doing.

The 'warning on the violent effects of games' or whatever they decided to slip in to appease the soccer moms on the board will of course go nowhere - any half-intelligent gamer child will be able to educate their parents far better than this school board could ever hope to on this topic.

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(no subject) - [info]teh_truthkeeper, 2006-03-16 03:10 am UTC
What bill? - [info]seifd, 2006-03-16 01:09 am UTC
Re: What bill? - [info]schizmo, 2006-03-16 01:12 am UTC
Re: What bill? - [info]beardedferret, 2006-03-16 12:51 pm UTC
Remember when folks were vilifying Passion of the Christ without having seen it?
[info]andrew_eisen
2006-03-16 12:17 am UTC (link)
"It's violence of the worst kind," said board member Frank Bolaños, who sponsored the resolution.

Trust me, I know. Rockstar invited me to their studio for a sneak peak at the game. I’m special.


Andrew Eisen

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Re: Remember when folks were vilifying Passion of the Christ without having seen it?
[info]jerico6
2006-03-16 12:52 am UTC (link)
Does the game look good? Does it promise to bring very good gameplay?

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Re: Remember when folks were vilifying Passion of the Christ without having seen it? - [info]andrew_eisen, 2006-03-16 01:01 am UTC
No KO punch. Just a little woozy.
[info]nightwng2000
2006-03-16 12:21 am UTC (link)
It's still pretty strong, at least with the second part still in place.

This was the school board. What does the local PTA think about it? I remember the article about the National PTA's statements. I read that as the National PTA neither condoning nor condeming violent video games. Just wanting parents educated and knowledgable about the information available such as the ratings. I wonder if the local PTA was in support of the school board's bill or not.

nightwng2000

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[info]jargon_john
2006-03-16 12:23 am UTC (link)
Well, that's a shocker. They're going to actually EDUCATE parents about violent videogames?

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will they educate the parents who
[info]hilaryduffgta
2006-03-16 12:24 am UTC (link)
Call them "Nintendo Toys"

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Re: will they educate the parents who - [info]semperar, 2006-03-16 02:27 am UTC
Yet another criticism of Bolaños' comment
[info]riffraff1138
2006-03-16 12:32 am UTC (link)
Board member Frank Bolaños, the school board member who officially sponsored the resolution, described Bully as "Violence of the worst kind."

But it's fake. In its entirety.

So fake violence is the worst kind of violence?

I can't help but wonder if these people really pay attention to what they're saying.

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Re: Yet another criticism of Bolaños' comment
[info]tollwutig
2006-03-16 01:58 am UTC (link)
yeah fake violence is much worse than Ethic Cleansing, Gang Executions,rapes, murders, child abuse... ahh but i ramble, of course fake violence is the worst.

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Re: Yet another criticism of Bolaños' comment - [info]beacon80, 2006-03-16 05:23 pm UTC
speaking of Admiral Dumbass,
[info]mrpat___
2006-03-16 12:35 am UTC (link)
isn't he supposed to be speaking in some other state as a witness for one of his crap resolutions?

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Re: speaking of Admiral Dumbass,
[info]jdmdsp911
2006-03-16 02:21 am UTC (link)
He supposedly spoke in Delaware today.

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Good.
[info]quad9damage
2006-03-16 12:46 am UTC (link)
"Don't sell the game to minors" is a lot better than "Don't sell the game at all." I also like how this is exactly what Jack kept saying he wanted.

Cheers to the Miami-Dade School Board and letting adults buy whatever they damn well please.

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Re: Good.
[info]schizmo
2006-03-16 01:16 am UTC (link)
17 isn't technically an adult, but I completley agree with you.

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[info]sprngpilot
2006-03-16 12:55 am UTC (link)
"GP: Tough break for Jack's anti-game crusade when he can't get the full-strength version of the resolution passed in his own backyard."


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[info]sqlrob
2006-03-16 01:13 am UTC (link)
We should educate parents about the effects of video games

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This could get watered down even more
[info]illspirit
2006-03-16 01:38 am UTC (link)
If they're not careful with the wording of the pamphlet or whatever on the "potential harmful effects" of games, they might find themselves faced with a lawsuit. Or at least a cease & desist. Warning/educating parents that there's violent content and stuff in games is one thing, and a good thing at that. However if they start proselytizing parents with Thompson-esque "facts" about how games will somehow turn their little angels into killers without fail, it could cross the line from education into propaganda and libel.

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[info]mouser
2006-03-16 01:40 am UTC (link)
Here's a thought - why don't they (the school board) do something about ACTUAL violence and ACTUAL bullys in their schools?

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[info]sqlrob
2006-03-16 01:55 am UTC (link)
Because that involves actually doing something instead of pretending?

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(no subject) - [info]thefremen, 2006-03-16 03:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nightwng2000, 2006-03-16 03:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]thefremen, 2006-03-16 08:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]automancer, 2006-03-16 08:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]beacon80, 2006-03-16 05:26 pm UTC

[info]dreamshade
2006-03-16 01:41 am UTC (link)
So... they watered down a worthless bill that would have accomplished nothing... into a worthless bill that accomplishes nothing? I'm still confused as to why they're doing this in the first place.

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Because........
[info]enmitywithin
2006-03-16 01:52 am UTC (link)
Jack Thompson is a super-douche

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(no subject) - [info]sprngpilot, 2006-03-16 02:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nightwng2000, 2006-03-16 03:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]spudsey, 2006-03-16 05:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dividebydesu, 2006-03-16 07:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]beacon80, 2006-03-16 05:30 pm UTC
Just checked Wikipedia
[info]blackmanta
2006-03-16 02:08 am UTC (link)
JT's entry is back up. If anything, it's much more organized than ever! Yay! :D

Eat it, Jack. Eat it raw!

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Re: Just checked Wikipedia
[info]attackgypsy
2006-03-16 02:40 am UTC (link)
Are you kidding? Its a kiss ass puff piece for Jack.

Dennis, time to get off of LJ, since you're no longer considered a reputable source. You need someone to set up the forums, I'll volunteer to do it for you.

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Re: Just checked Wikipedia - [info]blackmanta, 2006-03-16 02:43 am UTC
Re: Just checked Wikipedia - [info]attackgypsy, 2006-03-16 05:28 pm UTC
Can't say I"m surprised......
[info]kurisu7885
2006-03-16 02:25 am UTC (link)
cours,e Jack is just gonna get back to bitchin at us or someone else, but if he can't get this passed in his own state, what chances are there of this passing anywhere else? hmm, lemme think... none!!!! The game is gonna get released, it's gonan get sold with the regular restrictions, nuff said, and if you don't like it, then build a bridge and get the fuck over it.

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This game has 'dirty' written all over it
[info]blitzfitness
2006-03-16 03:28 am UTC (link)
I mean, c'mon, look at that toilet. *shudders*

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Re: This game has 'dirty' written all over it
[info]nightwng2000
2006-03-16 03:42 am UTC (link)
Yeah, woulda been funnier if he had the guy clean the toiler with the headmaster's toothbrush... then returning the toothbrush without the headmaster's knowledge. Well, the reviews do say the teachers are also corrupt. Works for me anyway. :)

nightwng2000

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Re: This game has 'dirty' written all over it - [info]blitzfitness, 2006-03-16 06:38 pm UTC
Re: This game has 'dirty' written all over it - [info]jargon_john, 2006-03-16 02:06 pm UTC
Re: This game has 'dirty' written all over it - [info]blitzfitness, 2006-03-16 06:37 pm UTC
Re: This game has 'dirty' written all over it - [info]ianc14, 2006-03-16 02:59 pm UTC
Re: This game has 'dirty' written all over it - [info]blitzfitness, 2006-03-16 06:37 pm UTC

[info]jaykaos
2006-03-16 05:01 am UTC (link)
Anyone else notice how much Jack is in the news since he got booted from LJ?
Amazing how productive he is when he's not insulting us 24/7.

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