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Entry tags:brain activity, ellen bialystok, jabrwock, senility, toronto university

Gaming a Cure for Senility? Canadian Brain Study Encouraging

We've all heard gamers described as "juveniles who can't grow up." But ironically, some argue that this is due to games' "anti-aging" effect on the brain.

According to a Toronto university study reported in the Globe & Mail, the effects of being a "video game player" were comparable to learning a second language: improved multitasking, visual skills and short term memory.

The study, which looked at 100 undergraduates, found that gamers consistently out-performed their fellow "non-gamers" in mental tests. Those who were bilingual gamers scored even higher.

Prof. Ellen Bialystok suspects gamers, like bilinguals, have learned the ability to block out information that is irrelevant to the task at hand. A new study, published in the Journal of Cognitive Neuroscience, shows the elderly lose the ability to "power up" certain "task-handling" areas of the brain, such as the frontal lobe, and to "power down" inner brain regions that are active when a person is in "idle/default mode." Those between the ages of 20-30 have no problem "switching gears" between idle mode and focusing on a task, but the ability declines with age. Studies have long shown that learning a second language slows this decline.

Shitij Kapur, a neuroscientist at Toronto's Centre for Addiction and Mental Health, says "it would be quite reasonable to expect that these teens are good at multitasking, because they grow up in a world that demands it." Although he notes that the next generation will likely be able to out-perform those that came before it, so it's a "relative impairment."

Although Prof. Bialystok is a strong supporter of bilingualism, she's concerned about the other effects of videogames, such as desensitization to violence, and that they may distract from other activities. "I'd still be plenty concerned if my child played them all the time... Sure, they're getting better at rapid search and response problems, but I really would prefer my child read a book."

J: The catch here, like learning a second language, or learning to play an instrument, is that the younger you start, the greater the effect, due to the fact that a young brain is easier to "train" to multitask. And of course, moderation is key, which is also better learned at a younger age. Props to Verbinator, et al. for sending this in.

I found it funny to learn that the brain naturally loses "frontal lobe" abilities as it ages, but that gaming and bilingualism slows this loss. So much for "frontal lobe damage"...

-Jabrwock




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[info]albedo777
2006-02-13 05:33 pm UTC (link)
"Prof. Ellen Bialystok suspects gamers, like bilinguals, have learned the ability to block out information that is irrelevant to the task at hand."

In other words...we learn to kill people more effectively, cutting out an extraneous thoughts or feelings, right Jack?

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hehehe
[info]goodrobotus
2006-02-13 05:41 pm UTC (link)
He'll try and work it that way, I'm sure, but it would stand up for about 3 seconds against professional testimony, the frontal lobe deals with reasoning, emotion, compassion, empathy etc. What this report says is that gamers actually have higher reasoning skills and actually think more deeply about what they are doing. It also says that as you get older, you finder it easier to rely on the inner 'lizard brain', being afraid of change and having to deal with it and that computer games help fight that onset.

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ok, now I know I'm gonna have a great day
[info]yukimurasanada
2006-02-13 05:37 pm UTC (link)
Hey Jack, what was that you used to say about our "frontal Lobes"? Seems to me that the only one whose Lobes might be fired is you, cause you DON"T PLAY GAMES!. Hold on a second.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHA.

Ok, i'm back now. Oh boy this is great is a great news day.

Dennis, Jabrwock, thanks for finding this one. Never thought I'd see jacks own words debunked by the very "studies" he loves to site so much.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm working on some movies. Anyone want a part?

((I should say I'm working in The Movies for Pc, and will be making a few home movies with it soon. If anyone would like a part, lemme know))

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Re: ok, now I know I'm gonna have a great day
[info]jabrwock
2006-02-13 05:42 pm UTC (link)
Dennis, Jabrwock, thanks for finding this one. Never thought I'd see jacks own words debunked by the very "studies" he loves to site so much.

What I found hilarious was that the studies showed that those pushing 60 (Jack's approx age) had high amounts of "cognitive decline" in their frontal lobes compared to those who grew up bilingual or gamers... :P

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Re: ok, now I know I'm gonna have a great day
[info]markusdragon
2006-02-13 05:48 pm UTC (link)
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm working on some movies. Anyone want a part?
What's your studio name?

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My brain is not that complex
[info]tsknf
2006-02-13 05:43 pm UTC (link)
It's just one side is pure 'leetness' and the other 'ice-cold-cool'.

I bet that sounded neither.

Cool study though.

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[info]jmae
2006-02-13 05:51 pm UTC (link)
Woohoo! This is why I love my field. :D

Apparently playing Dance Dance Revolution can help kids with ADHD improve their reading scores.

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They must have trouble with the O then
[info]xinux
2006-02-14 01:36 am UTC (link)
"I DON'T GET THIS ONE! It doesn't point up, down, left OR right!"

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[info]jmae
2006-02-14 03:52 pm UTC (link)
"The 0 looks like an orange. Mmm... orange... hey, a trash can!"

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[info]rhapsody
2006-02-13 06:04 pm UTC (link)
I remember back in high school I was exceptionally good at Geometery. My teacher told me it was because I played video games since an early age after he asked me if I did.

Here's a good article I read while back on how video games can be good for your brain.

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[info]pahsons
2006-02-13 06:05 pm UTC (link)
It didn't work for me

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Obviously...
[info]tollwutig
2006-02-13 06:39 pm UTC (link)
the study was payed for by the evil Video Game industry,

remember we're dealing with a Narcissist here.

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[info]sqlrob
2006-02-13 06:48 pm UTC (link)
Jack doesn't play video games, does he?

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[info]chenry
2006-02-13 08:54 pm UTC (link)
do bears shit in the woods?

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[info]doggyspew
2006-02-13 09:17 pm UTC (link)
I know the pope does... what ?

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[info]xinux
2006-02-14 01:39 am UTC (link)
The Pope plays video games?

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Nintendo Revolution a revolution for the disabled?
[info]perfect_self
2006-02-13 07:23 pm UTC (link)
Let's get some more positive gaming news going here in addition to the brain study. I ran across this article in my local paper today and was able to find a copy of it online. The article discusses how the controller for the Nintendo Revolution may allow disabled gamers to continue with the hobby they love.

http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/business/technology/13748410.htm

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Re: Nintendo Revolution a revolution for the disabled?
[info]jabrwock
2006-02-13 07:33 pm UTC (link)
This is one from a while ago, but it keeps popping up in local papers. :)

http://gamepolitics.livejournal.com/192439.html

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Re: Nintendo Revolution a revolution for the disabled?
[info]perfect_self
2006-02-13 07:37 pm UTC (link)
That's what I get for not reading GP every single day. ;)

Better late than never I suppose. At least the article is circulating well.

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Re: Nintendo Revolution a revolution for the disabled?
[info]godofyouall
2006-02-18 06:25 pm UTC (link)
http://www.theesa.com/facts/third_party.php

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[info]sainttweeter
2006-02-13 07:26 pm UTC (link)
My 72 year old grandfather is in great mental health, and he's an avid gamer. I wonder if there's a connection. Heh.

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[info]ianc14
2006-02-13 07:34 pm UTC (link)
I wonder if thats why Old Grandma Harddcore is still in great health

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[info]urutapu
2006-02-13 07:42 pm UTC (link)
Now my parents -have- to let me get some sort of console.

...all i have is roms. ;-;

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woohoo!
[info]skrunchster
2006-02-13 07:56 pm UTC (link)
Heh, I'm gonna tell this to my parents. :P

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lol
[info]skrunchster
2006-02-13 08:02 pm UTC (link)
Is this real, or a joke? Look at the names of the brain parts...

gran...theft...aauto...

"halo"um...

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Re: lol
[info]goodrobotus
2006-02-13 08:23 pm UTC (link)
Heh Koopus Callosum,

Mario Much? ;)

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Here's how it is in english
[info]skemodan
2006-02-13 08:04 pm UTC (link)
For anyone who hasn't read the articles about this topic.

Video games do cause a "violent" reaction in the brain during extended gameplay. Violent is used in the sense that the brain is more active and is processing faster during these periods of gameplay. However, they have no idea what that means. They cannot, in any way, prove that there is any extended damage, good or bad, to the brain due to these high-yield neurological reactions. Many scientists have attempted to tie these reactions to similar activities that cause similar reactions in the same regions of the brain. However, different stimuli that affect the same part of the brain can and normally do turn out different results. Seratonin, a chemical naturally produced by the brain is affiliated strongly with hallucinagenic drugs. All hallucinagens cause an increased flow of seratonin, thus stimulating the brain to produce violent (in the same sense as above) reactions to various areas of the brain. However, the reaction to mushrooms and the reaction acid are very different. Note that, same neurological affect, different psychological output. Video games are exactly the same. The interactive nature of video games causes the mind to react in the same fashion it does when you are driving, drawing, playing music, or anything that involves creative input or spatial relations (including audible and visual queues). However, like I said, scientists have NO IDEA what that means. These reactions are fact. The brain does respond to video games differently and more actively than movies, books, or TV shows, but that means realtively nothing since humans often run on a case by case basis, and no proof of any kind has been shown to suggest that these reactions can lead to any sort of damage or after affects. It's like being high. You come up, you stay up, but once it's gone, it's gone. Your brain suffers nothing. Seratonin is an acidic substance however, so getting high on drugs that increase the flow of seratonin may, after repeated long-term exposure, cause some damage, but video games don't have anything to do with the flow of seratonin.

In summation, research still shows NOTHING about what video games have the capacity to do to the brain or the human psyche. All research that proves Jack's point is pure speculation based on narrow-minded research that fails to take into account an enourmous amount of factors that would and often do influence violent (in the sense of guns and knives) behavior.

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Re: Here's how it is in english
[info]butters66
2006-02-13 08:36 pm UTC (link)
Ender's Game

Nuff Said.

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Re: Here's how it is in english
[info]jmae
2006-02-13 10:44 pm UTC (link)
Would you mind providing references to that? Because while I agree with your conclusion, I don't agree with a good fraction of the evidence you provide to back it up.

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[info]howdoyouplead
2006-02-13 08:48 pm UTC (link)
Prof. Bialystok is pretty narrow minded, suggesting all games are violent and thinking that books are better for your kid.

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Question...
[info]sir_bissel
2006-02-13 09:00 pm UTC (link)
Is it that the games are doing this, or are the people that are already like that just the ones that tend to play games?

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Re: Question...
[info]jabrwock
2006-02-13 09:08 pm UTC (link)
Well, the study only looked at current gamers, and didn't really have a control group that was refused games even if they wanted to play them...

It's a hard thing to study, since like learning a second language, you need to study it over decades...

This is why they didn't really have any hard conclusions...

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Re: Question...
[info]goodrobotus
2006-02-13 09:21 pm UTC (link)
True, scientists, particuarly neuroscientists, avoid saying things like 'This is 100% fact' anyway, since with something as complex as the human brain, no research can ever be applied to every single person out there. This goes as much for the research that says computer games increase intelligence/awareness as those that say they increase violence/aggression. Outside stimulus is exactly that, stimulus, it promotes reaction within the brain, but it is totally dependant on the person. Pain is an example, some people react to pain with violence, others with fear, others can handle levels of pain that 'ordinary' people would pass out at. That's why any kind of study on the effects of computer games on peoples minds can only ever be 'general', there can be no hard or fast rules.

What's happened is that anti-gamers have taken the possibility that the images in these games may produce violent thoughts in some people and tried to apply it to the mass instead of the individual and, even more scarily, don't see anything wrong with this kind of generalisation. After all, in the UK, Football can turn normally intelligent and sensible people into violent, noisy yobs. Clubs voluntarily put up protection against it, and by the Police and the Football Clubs *working together*, not being at odds with each other, the problem is now a lot less prominent than it used to be. Had the Police decided 'We're going to close down your football clubs, I love the smell of burning fans in the morning', it would, almost certainly, have got worse.

That is the fact that misses anti-gamers every single time, and football clubs are very rich and influencial organisations, like computer game manufacturers, but the cure for the problem of football violence was the 'working with' not 'working against' those organisations. The FC's weren't forced to do anything iirc, after all they weren't responsible for the Yob's actions, it was simply explained to them how losing revenue due to people being afraid to attend was not a good idea and that the Police couldn't be everywhere at once, they soon got the message.

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ha ha ha
[info]enmitywithin
2006-02-13 09:02 pm UTC (link)
John. what are you going to do now? are you going to call her a liar?

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[info]kurisu7885
2006-02-13 09:23 pm UTC (link)
I'm waiting to see Jack's take on this.

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[info]the1jeffy
2006-02-13 09:29 pm UTC (link)
I thought his account got banned for being insulting toward a reader, but I'm not sure being that LiveJournal kinda sucks.

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[info]jabrwock
2006-02-13 09:56 pm UTC (link)
I don't think you can IP ban, or it's complicated, because Dennis keeps banning Jack's accounts, and he keeps signing up for new ones.

Maybe today he "pre-emptively" banned Jack's latest account so he couldn't spam us?

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[info]the1jeffy
2006-02-14 01:36 pm UTC (link)
I was wrong. JT posted a little after I posted here, he must have been in the can or something.

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[info]razor5
2006-02-13 10:23 pm UTC (link)
You won't see Jack's take on it, because he ignores any information that happens to be against his agenda. Take for example things like schizophrenia and neo-nazi leanings...

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Agreed
[info]automancer
2006-02-13 10:32 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I'm guessing Mr. Thompson will read this, but not comment, because this supports our side and he needs to block all of that out.

-Auto

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Re: Agreed
[info]jabrwock
2006-02-13 10:54 pm UTC (link)
Apparently he was too busy in another thread trying to link Call of Duty 2 to church burnings in Alabama... 0_o

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Re: Agreed
[info]tollwutig
2006-02-14 04:14 pm UTC (link)
great now i am going to have to find that one

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Great
[info]brendanthejedi
2006-02-14 01:41 am UTC (link)
Well, thats is good news. Not only do games help you reflexs, now they can stop you from getting alzhimers. Dispute this one Jack.

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I forget
[info]cyberskull
2006-02-14 02:23 am UTC (link)
I've been forgetting stuff lately. I guess I need to play more video games.

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[info]danzigstorer
2006-02-19 12:50 pm UTC (link)
There are many other activities, some that we do everyday and others that also involve multitasking and/or thinking. Sports, playing board games or with puzzles, writing, reading, and others (including learning another language) allow the brain the exercise. More important, many of these activities are much cheaper than playing computer games and are helpful in many more ways.

For example, board games allow people to socialize. Sports can make them healthier. Learning another language can allow them to talk to more people, to learn about other cultures, and to gain advancement in professional careers.

How, then, are gamers juveniles who can't grow up? They are so because they don't accept the fact that there are many more activities that are also fun, that improve the brain, that are cheaper than playing computer games, and that may offer more benefits than playing computer games.

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