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Entry tags:depression, kujo105, steukerjuergen, suicide, tus

Gamer Commits Suicide Online. Here's the REAL Story

This is one of those tragic stories we wish we never had to write.

Reports - and a lot of misinformation - are circulating concerning the death of a 21-year-old hardcore gamer who killed himself while talking online in a gaming forum. Surprisingly, the U.S. mainstream media hasn't picked up on the story, although it has been reported in France, Bulgaria and Australia. Friends of the victim, however, take issue with the European coverage, claiming it is inaccurate, insensitive and sensationalizes the tragedy.

The story began on the evening of January 2nd on a private forum at Metal Gear Solid: The Unofficial Site, an MGS fan site created by a Bulgarian designer but hosted in the United States. The site is known as "TUS" among devotees. One of TUS' regular users was "Kuja105", real name Mitchell Lee "Mitch" Steukerjuergen, a journalism major at Western Illinois University.

Mitch, apparently beset by financial and housing problems, posted a message with the subject line "Bye guys." He related that he could no longer go on living, had chosen a painful way to die, but would continue to post on the board as long as he could. Apparently the troubled young man had consumed a combination of anti-freeze and pills. He concluded his message with, "It was a blast knowing you guys. I'm getting kinda scared about it, so it would be great to see some good things posted."

While the Bulgarian Sofia News Agency reported that other users made fun of the dying young man, a GamePolitics review of posts in the TUS forum reveals that to be untrue. Much concern was shown as well as increasingly frantic offers to help. Some TUS users even reached Mitch by phone, advising him to call 9-1-1 and induce vomiting. The online friends of the victim are especially outraged by reports in the French AFP news service suggesting that Mitch was in live chat with a webcam turned on.

GamePolitics spoke at length with "Nitroid," an admin at TUS and an online bud who tried to help Mitch during that terrible night. Here is an edited version of the AIM log:

GP: ...sorry to hear about your friend.
Nitroid: Yeah.. We just found a message from his sister a bit ago, and we've talked to his dad some more... They're all taking it pretty hard, but are supporting our endeavor to clear this up.
GP: his sister posted on TUS?
Nitroid: No, on Digg
GP: have a link, by any chance?
Nitroid: http://digg.com/gaming/Gamer_Commits_Suicide,_Media_Misreports ...near the bottom.
GP: cool... did I understand that you spoke with him that night?
Nitroid: I spoke with Mitch over the phone, yes... Only for a short while, though, but I tried my best to convince him to get to a doctor... To my knowledge, he did with help from his roommate, and died shortly after in the hospital.
GP: was he at home or school when this happened?
Nitroid: Apartment, apparently. he went to school out of state
GP: did you know Mitch on a personal level or just via TUS?
Nitroid: I knew him for a couple years. We talked almost every day, and I originally met him through an old site that I used to run. He was one of my first moderators.
GP: this must have been pretty traumatizing for you.
Nitroid: well, we all panicked pretty fast.
GP: horrible way he chose to do it.... are you getting over it, or still too soon?
Nitroid: really, it's only now starting to register. we got a lot of unwanted drama and attention over this. all we want is for people to know that he wasn't some attention monger. he didn't kill himself over a webcam, and he wasn't trying to make a spectacle of himself.
GP: yeah, the foreign press really screwed that story up... let me ask you what games Mitch was into.. MGS series, obviously... anything else?
Nitroid: He was a big Star Wars fan... Loved Calvin & Hobbes, hence, the Calvin & Hobbes images on our tribute page... the image at the end of the tribute was his avatar... We really just wanted a quiet rememberance for him -- not some crazy gamer-slandering story.
GP: ok... and did you say there is a thread up on TUS now, like a memorial?
Nitroid: www.metalgearsolid.org ...top left
GP: okay... thx much. take care of yourself...
Nitroid: Thanks again, man. Really.

Here is the TUS tribute to Kuja105. Mitch's obituary is also available online.

May you find peace, gamer friend.




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(Anonymous)
2006-01-20 09:34 pm UTC (link)
A sad ordeal, to be sure...

Social problems like these need to be solved first... here someone could place the blame elsewhere, but placing the blame elsewhere would be a dishonor to that person's memory, and if it had been done earlier, would not have helped him. People out there need help, and it's good to see that there were those who cared about someone they probably didn't know on such a personal level. I hope he finds peace wherever he might be...

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[info]kajex
2006-01-20 09:36 pm UTC (link)
Erm... that was my post... >.>; must've weirded out of my LJ...

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Saddest post ever
[info]jbourrie
2006-01-20 09:36 pm UTC (link)
This may be the saddest thing I've seen on GP so far.

That's really all I can say. Horrible.

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Re: Saddest post ever
[info]getwellgamer
2006-01-20 10:17 pm UTC (link)
I'm used to getting angry or resentful at stuff that goes up on Gamepolitics, but this is truly horrific. I suppose the one good thing that could be said is that the gaming community around Mitch showed their support and got him to go to the hospital. It might have seemed a futile gesture, but if nothing else, it got Mitch to want to live again, and I think that's important enough in and of itself. My condolances to everyone out there who was close enough to this tragedy to really be affected by it.

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This is horrible.
[info]zero_beat_x
2006-01-20 09:39 pm UTC (link)
Anti-freeze and pills... Wow. I really am at a loss for words concerning Kuja105 himself.

However, I have a few things I would like to say to the foreign media and our media (even though the won't read it):

1. This was not caused by video games. This was caused due to financial and emotional problems.

2. This was not broadcast over a webcam.

3. No one made fun of him. They offered to help. For God's sake, a man just died, and you almost immediately started playing the blame game.

4. Shame on those of you that already reported that this was broadcast via webcam and/or other forum users made fun of him. You 'people' (and I use that term very loosely) are scum.

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-Vader
(Anonymous)
2006-01-20 09:41 pm UTC (link)
Im very sorry for all the users and people that knew the guy... And I am very pissed off on how the media has to mess up on reports... And I would have to agree also with this dude... If Jack see's this... Damn I dont even want to imagine...

But back to the serious subject I just feel a little sad for this dude... Hope his family it okay... and his freinds to... Rest in peace...

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damn.....
[info]pixelante_ninja
2006-01-20 09:48 pm UTC (link)
that's really sad...
makes you think doesn't it
worrying about stupid things
the media are scum
he sounds like he was a cool guy
:( stupid media let this guy rest in peace

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[info]maldron
2006-01-20 09:48 pm UTC (link)
Sadness at the suicide, anger at the press for not researching into it as greatly as they should have... too much feelings on/about this. My sympaties to all those involved.

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Such a shame
[info]hilaryduffgta
2006-01-20 09:52 pm UTC (link)
It truly is a sad thing to hear about.My Thoughts and Prayers go out to the family and friends.and i dont think a certain attorney will spout off about
this one and try to use that whole "gamers laugh at suicide so that proves im right" but who knows.Its such a Horrible thing when we get soo stressed out and soo upset over how life is going we forget that we have a limited time here on earth and i know what its like to go thru what Mitch was going thru.Thats one reason i am always in forums like Neoseeker and here.It helps at the end of a long hard day to chat with friends and just take it easy.

But Mitch is Up in heaven right now

God Bless

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Re: Such a shame
(Anonymous)
2006-01-21 12:47 am UTC (link)
You don't go to heaven when you die. hope U know that

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Re: Such a shame - (Anonymous), 2006-01-21 12:49 am UTC
Re: Such a shame - [info]kajex, 2006-01-21 01:41 am UTC
Re: Such a shame - [info]xenosphobatic, 2006-01-21 02:28 pm UTC
Re: Such a shame - [info]inabottle, 2006-01-23 11:16 am UTC
It is a shame.
[info]startropics
2006-01-20 09:54 pm UTC (link)
I'm one of the regulars that was privy to most of the matters. I didn't know Mitch as well as the others, so it hasn't affected me as depely as them. Still, it's good to know that we have a devoted crowd of people who want the truth told, especially here at GP :)

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[info]exaggeration17a
2006-01-20 09:56 pm UTC (link)
Anyone who considers this to be a case of gamers laughing at suicide must be living in some kind of Star Trek mirror universe. If anything, this serves as an example of how gamers can find a support network in people that enjoy the same titles they do. Kuja105 turned to his friends-- a community of gamers-- for comfort in his final hours. While it's tragic to see anyone choose suicide, it shows just how much concern gamers can show for people they care about and the significance of our community.

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True
[info]hilaryduffgta
2006-01-20 10:01 pm UTC (link)
Suicide is a horrible thing to have to deal with and its sad mitch couldnt find another way to cope with pain and with the stress.One thing this does show is that gamers arent cold blooded heartless people.I've noticed gamers can be some of the most caring and sensitive people.The Gaming Community is truly that a community that cares for its fellow men and friends.

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holy shit...
[info]skrunchster
2006-01-20 09:59 pm UTC (link)
...this is horrible. I can't believe that the press would fuck this up.

Jack Thompson better not jump on this.

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Re: holy shit...
[info]hilaryduffgta
2006-01-20 10:02 pm UTC (link)
I dont think he's that low of a person

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Re: holy shit... - [info]zero_beat_x, 2006-01-20 10:05 pm UTC
Re: holy shit... - [info]kaldun, 2006-01-20 10:25 pm UTC
Re: holy shit... - [info]zero_beat_x, 2006-01-20 10:31 pm UTC
Re: holy shit... - [info]grombar, 2006-01-20 11:18 pm UTC
Re: holy shit... - [info]kaldun, 2006-01-21 05:55 pm UTC
This actually would play into his rhetoric quite nicely... - [info]tweek_20k, 2006-01-20 10:23 pm UTC
Re: This actually would play into his rhetoric quite nicely... - [info]getwellgamer, 2006-01-20 11:33 pm UTC
Re: holy shit... - [info]incendis_mind, 2006-01-21 05:55 am UTC
Stunned
[info]l0que
2006-01-20 10:03 pm UTC (link)
I am personally stunned by this.

I live less than 40 minutes from Peoria...

This hits way too close to home for me...

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Re: Stunned - [info]viewtiful_dyl, 2006-01-20 11:07 pm UTC
Re: Stunned - [info]firinn, 2006-01-21 12:03 am UTC
Re: Stunned - [info]automancer, 2006-01-24 07:34 am UTC

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Re: Stunned - [info]l0que, 2006-01-21 02:48 am UTC
Re: Stunned - (Anonymous), 2006-01-21 02:54 am UTC
Re: Stunned - (Anonymous), 2006-01-21 04:04 am UTC
Re: Stunned - [info]sabin_blitz, 2006-01-21 05:35 am UTC
Re: Stunned - (Anonymous), 2006-01-21 06:16 am UTC
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[info]kaspersg
2006-01-20 10:07 pm UTC (link)
My condolences.

Does anyone know why he did it? I mean it says financial and housing trouble, but I have a hard time believing that there is no more to it.

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(Anonymous)
2006-01-20 10:21 pm UTC (link)
Perhaps depression, some people get into a slump and just can't get out.

It's horrible to hear that it happened and that it's a total CF in the media, but I hope that the family and friends can just grieve in peace.

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Re: Yes, he did it because his life was desperately empty... - [info]viewtiful_dyl, 2006-01-20 11:06 pm UTC
Re: Yes, he did it because his life was desperately empty... - [info]lysandarria, 2006-01-21 12:01 am UTC
Re: Yes, he did it because his life was desperately empty... - [info]incendis_mind, 2006-01-21 06:02 am UTC
Re: Yes, he did it because his life was desperately empty... - [info]lysandarria, 2006-01-21 09:59 am UTC
Re: Yes, he did it because his life was desperately empty... - [info]firinn, 2006-01-21 12:27 am UTC
Re: Yes, he did it because his life was desperately empty... - [info]chicito21154, 2006-01-21 12:37 am UTC
Re: Yes, he did it because his life was desperately empty... - (Anonymous), 2006-01-21 01:21 am UTC
Re: Yes, he did it because his life was desperately empty... - [info]incendis_mind, 2006-01-21 06:04 am UTC
Re: Yes, he did it because his life was desperately empty... - [info]kajex, 2006-01-21 01:47 am UTC
Re: Yes, he did it because his life was desperately empty... - [info]enmitywithin, 2006-01-21 02:14 am UTC
Re: Yes, he did it because his life was desperately empty... - [info]kaldun, 2006-01-21 05:41 am UTC
Wrong Answer - [info]kharne83, 2006-01-21 01:09 pm UTC
Re: Yes, he did it because his life was desperately empty... - [info]xenosphobatic, 2006-01-21 02:30 pm UTC
What he said. - [info]mr_putter, 2006-01-24 06:51 pm UTC
I Don't Agree with Sucide....
(Anonymous)
2006-01-20 10:12 pm UTC (link)
But in the end he did try and go to the hospitial...Honestly I think that the care and admiration the other gamers showed Mitch should prove to everyone that we don't like death and suffering in real life. What we play is a game, nothing more than pixals on a screen. We know when its real and when its not.

And Jack if you so much as sneeze the wrong way about this guy, you'll get a very angery phone call from a very pissed off Celt with a wide range of vocabulary.

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Re: I Don't Agree with Sucide....
(Anonymous)
2006-01-21 05:11 am UTC (link)
Too late, look above you. It's sad, but he came here.

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R.I.P Mitch Steukerjuergen
[info]tweek_20k
2006-01-20 10:21 pm UTC (link)
Could only imagine the frustration inherently present with trying to convince someone not to commit suicide over a forum. Are they watching? Do they care? Are they even on the forums right now? Are they still alive? Given the reports at the site, I'm convinced that his friends did everything they could. I'd hesitate to look through the actual forum posts...

At first I was going to mention that Bill Watterson, the talented author of Calvin and Hobbes, rarely licenses (if ever) any merchandise, (though many people sell unlicensed stuff) or signs strips, and generally ignores fanmail and such (and I don't blame him), so I'd normally think that he wouldn't agree to allow putting up panels from the end strip for Mitch's obituary, and thought the selection was a bit odd. But since Mitch was a 'huge fan', perhaps it doesn't matter as much.

I never know what to say when something like this happens... My sincerest condolences to the Steurkerjuergen extended family, and to the regulars at MetalGearSolid.org.

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Wow...
[info]viewtiful_dyl
2006-01-20 10:28 pm UTC (link)
That's a real downer. I offer my deepest condolences for Mitch's Family, freinds and forum buds.

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Re: Wow...
(Anonymous)
2006-01-20 10:40 pm UTC (link)
Your offer your condolences. How they going to get them? Reading your post in this chatroom? Call them up or send flowers. Get into real reality, not virtual reality, you goofs. Jack Thompson

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Re: Wow... - [info]viewtiful_dyl, 2006-01-20 10:50 pm UTC
Attention GamePolitics readers! - [info]tweek_20k, 2006-01-20 11:45 pm UTC
Re: Attention GamePolitics readers! - [info]kajex, 2006-01-21 01:49 am UTC
Re: Attention GamePolitics readers! - [info]kajex, 2006-01-21 01:51 am UTC
Re: Attention GamePolitics readers! - [info]jerico6, 2006-01-21 02:38 am UTC
Re: Attention GamePolitics readers! - [info]tweek_20k, 2006-01-21 03:56 am UTC
Re: Wow... - [info]lysandarria, 2006-01-21 12:06 am UTC
Re: Wow... - [info]chicito21154, 2006-01-21 12:40 am UTC
Re: Wow... - (Anonymous), 2006-01-21 02:54 am UTC
Re: Wow... - [info]heimdal00, 2006-01-23 08:43 pm UTC
Re: Wow... - [info]kensuke_hayashi, 2006-01-25 01:24 pm UTC
Not fucking surprised
[info]jabrwock
2006-01-20 10:37 pm UTC (link)
That a certain asshole would try and slip a "see what gaming does to you" comment in at this time.

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Re: People with brains are not surprised by gamer suicides. read the below, ace - [info]viewtiful_dyl, 2006-01-20 11:04 pm UTC

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Re: People with brains are not surprised by gamer suicides. read the below, ace - [info]nightwng2000, 2006-01-21 02:56 am UTC
Re: People with brains are not surprised by gamer suicides. read the below, ace - [info]psyco_chick32, 2006-01-21 03:08 am UTC
Re: People with brains are not surprised by gamer suicides. read the below, ace - [info]nightwng2000, 2006-01-21 02:49 am UTC
Re: People with brains are not surprised by gamer suicides. read the below, ace - (Anonymous), 2006-01-21 08:09 am UTC
Re: People with brains are not surprised by gamer suicides. read the below, ace - [info]jeremykpierce, 2006-01-22 12:03 am UTC
Re: Not fucking surprised - [info]jesdk, 2006-01-20 10:52 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2006-01-20 10:38 pm UTC (link)
I give my sympathy to the family.

No one should have to go through a family member commiting suicide.

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That's just horrible.
(Anonymous)
2006-01-20 10:40 pm UTC (link)
It's especially sad how the media is smearing those who tried to talk him out of it and desperately worked to track down his real world contact information so they could get him help. My heart and prayers go out to him and his family.

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Mr. Thompson
(Anonymous)
2006-01-20 10:56 pm UTC (link)
Mr. Thompson.

I have heard much about you on the news and the media, though I feel that you have grasped the wrong end of the stick here. It is clear that both you and I are from completely different generations, which means that you probably don't understand us. As a member of the forums from which Mitchell S. was from, I don't think you should be using this as another tool to fuel your crusade against video games.

You have an opinion, yes, we're all welcome to one - but there are times when you need to keep your peace. Mitchell was a very popular and widely respected individual, and by attacking him you are attacking his friends and family. So I ask of you, please drop this.

J. Walton ("Rommel")

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Umm - (Anonymous), 2006-01-21 12:02 am UTC
Just pmd Nitroid
[info]hilaryduffgta
2006-01-20 10:46 pm UTC (link)
and sent the link along with information To Contact the florida bar.Dont you think they would love to hear about this Jack?

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Re: Just pmd Nitroid
[info]viewtiful_dyl
2006-01-20 10:56 pm UTC (link)
hocan you give me instructions as well :p

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Re: Just pmd Nitroid - [info]hilaryduffgta, 2006-01-20 10:58 pm UTC
My condolences
[info]squirrelofwrath
2006-01-20 11:03 pm UTC (link)
To the family: My deepest thoughts and prayers go out to you. I hop that not only Mitch can find peace, but that you can as well.

To Mr. Thompson: How dare you. A man lost his life, and all you can think about is furthering your own agenda. Before you presume to dictate how other human beings live their lives, you should try becoming one yourself. This had nothing to do with video games, he was not gunned down by some violent kid, You could not of even began to remotely forsee this, let alone any game laws to prevent this.

In short Mr. Thompson:

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Re: My condolences
[info]jesdk
2006-01-20 11:04 pm UTC (link)
Well said - every word of it!

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Re: My condolences - [info]viewtiful_dyl, 2006-01-20 11:12 pm UTC
Re: My condolences - [info]squirrelofwrath, 2006-01-20 11:15 pm UTC
Re: My condolences - [info]winter_b0rn, 2006-01-21 12:14 am UTC
Re: My condolences - [info]silver_derstin, 2006-01-21 02:56 am UTC
You have no business here, Jack.
[info]grombar
2006-01-20 11:06 pm UTC (link)
Go find some other corpse to feed on.

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Re: You have no business here, Jack.
[info]viewtiful_dyl
2006-01-20 11:09 pm UTC (link)
like a resident evil zombie :p cept he's worse

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The saddest part about this whole situation
[info]callme_andy
2006-01-20 11:09 pm UTC (link)
Once you put aside the built in emotional response I've gone through because of this, Not even knowing the guy, but being a 21 year old gamer/student with big debts from school that I know i'll have to pay off as soon as I graduate. Whats the difference? I have a pretty solid group of friends and a good relationship with my family. From what little i've read here, that seems to be the big difference between me and Mitch, and that's a scary feeling - He must have been so lonely and scared to do something like that... Really just makes you think

The worst part about this whole situation though, is the profoundly disgusting display we're treated to courtesy of first the foreign press and now Mr. Thompson. When you take something as emotionally wrenching and downright tragic as suicide, and manipulate the facts and assume things in order to further your own professional aspirations, it's just.... I can't even think of a good word for it. Inhuman is cliche and Disgusting isn't strong enough.

I've called you an ambulance chaser in the past, Mr. Thompson - And when we've spoken on the phone before you've always seemed very coherent (as long as you're reading from a script) but this really takes the cake.

I don't even know what you are.

but I expect Hawkes won't have a problem telling you exactly what you are in the editorial he's working on. Just google yourself some more on monday (as if you don't every day) and i"m sure you'll stumble across many such opinions.

You knew this would be the reaction but you still make your inflammatory, obviously inappropriate attempt to advance your career at the expense of a dead man.

You wanted press attention, you got it

Adam Levine
Editor, GamerAndy.com

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OMG...
[info]jerico6
2006-01-20 11:20 pm UTC (link)
That's terrible. I can't believe he would do something like this.

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[info]tom_fox
2006-01-20 11:28 pm UTC (link)
I don't know about everyone else, but I'm putting in a day of video game silence in respect...

Terribly sad...
-Fox :(

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[info]eternallegenduk
2006-01-20 11:50 pm UTC (link)
That sounds like a good idea, and I support it. Put down your controllers and unplug the AV cables, and take some time to reflect on the people and the media itself. One desperate man's actions have been felt around the world, and maybe we gamers can show the sort of people we really are and make up for the inhuman actions of the mass media.

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What day? - [info]kilika_stryfe, 2006-01-21 04:32 am UTC
Jack vs. Christians
(Anonymous)
2006-01-20 11:29 pm UTC (link)
Dear people who are not Christian,

Don't worry. At no point in the Bible does Jesus or any godly person ever mock someone's death. Jack's idiocy here is the product of his own mental derangement.

Signed,
Christians

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Re: Jack vs. Christians
[info]eternallegenduk
2006-01-20 11:35 pm UTC (link)
It's sad that such a disclaimer is not only useful but becoming increasingly necessary. I'm not a Christian myself, and I've had people tell me I've no right to live because of that, but it is important to remember that 1% of *any* group is going to be obnoxious.

I'm starting to feel as sorry for the Christians as I did for the Muslims a few years ago.

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Re: Jack vs. Christians - [info]getwellgamer, 2006-01-20 11:36 pm UTC
Re: Jack vs. Christians - [info]viewtiful_dyl, 2006-01-20 11:48 pm UTC
Re: Jack vs. Christians - [info]pixelante_ninja, 2006-01-20 11:51 pm UTC
Re: Jack vs. Christians - [info]viewtiful_dyl, 2006-01-21 12:25 am UTC
Re: Jack vs. Christians - [info]pixelante_ninja, 2006-01-21 12:41 am UTC
Re: Jack vs. Christians - [info]lysandarria, 2006-01-21 12:33 am UTC
Re: Jack vs. Christians - [info]malakimknight, 2006-01-21 12:55 am UTC
Re: Jack vs. Christians - (Anonymous), 2006-01-21 09:06 am UTC
Re: Jack vs. Christians - [info]mnementh2230, 2006-01-22 09:04 am UTC

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