gamepolitics: A Jack Thompson Buffet

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gamepolitics) wrote,
@ 2005-11-15 15:21:00

A Jack Thompson Buffet

What's that? You say you want more Jack Thompson news?

Too bad - you're getting it anyway...

First, Jack's book Out of Harm's Way is now available through online retailers. It should be on the shelves in bookstores within a day or two. You can read the first chapter here.

Next, online mag The Escapist has a profile of the game-bashing attorney, written by scribe Dave Thomas. It's quite a good read. Best line: "Keeping track of Jack's activities is like trying to document an evening of binge drinking for an entire fraternity on a lost weekend in Vegas."

Finally, Thompson has petitioned Troy King, Attorney General of Alabama, to have PSP title GTA: Liberty City Stories declared a nuisance. The outspoken attorney complains to A.G. King that Take-Two is marketing what he describes as a "cop-killing game" on daytime T.V. during (unspecified) programs aimed at children. Some readers may recall that Thompson moved to have Rockstar's upcoming "Bully" declared a nuisance in Florida earlier this year. That matter is believed to be still pending.

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	Daily show.... (Anonymous) 2005-11-15 09:16 pm UTC (link)
	He's pimpin a book now, so mebbe he'll get onto the Daily Show, and we can see for once that he isn't the Mister Hyde to Jon Stewart's Dr Jekyll. Or then again, mebbe Jon will just dim the lights, put on the wig, and we'll see the truth in what could be the creepiest Bates~esque moment in fake news history..... (Reply to this) (Thread)

	Re: Daily show.... turbinerocks 2005-11-15 10:18 pm UTC (link)
	Christ, he does look like John Stewart, doesn't he? (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

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thejury_rigged, 2005-11-16 04:17 am UTC

	apathyislife 2005-11-15 09:17 pm UTC (link)
	How many kids out there actually own a psp? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	awel_cruiz 2005-11-16 12:45 pm UTC (link)
	Me! And GTA: LCS is the shit! I don't go anywhere without it. BTW, I know someone else here uses the BadAssBuddy Jack pic. I hope you don't mind me using it too, since I don't post here that much. If you'd prefer, I'll use my other pics when I'm here. (Reply to this) (Parent)

Hopefully First Post

hilaryduffgta
2005-11-15 09:18 pm UTC (link)

Well Hopefully this will Be the First Post...(unless someone beats me) aggresively marketing liberty city stories to children on day time tv....And im sure jack is aware that a PsP does Run Over 200 dollars..now imsure a 10 year old kid isnt going to have 200 dollars plus another 50 not to mention tax so lets say close to 300 dollars....And what day time shows are showing ads for Lcc..I've seen the Commercial On Mainly G4...Well Jack lets see you defend yourself...If you have the balls too....

Signed

Tfm...(2000 kills in a new file in gta jack..Yet no thoughts of killing Human Beings.....)

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	Re: Hopefully First Post (Anonymous) 2005-11-15 10:31 pm UTC (link)
	They're advertising the games, not the PSP, and the last time I checked 16-year-olds were buying $50 games with no parents in site, in violation of promises made by the retail video game industry to Congress as early as 1992. Duh. Jack Thompson (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

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jdmdsp911, 2005-11-16 08:41 am UTC

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locke_cole, 2005-11-16 12:08 pm UTC

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hilaryduffgta, 2005-11-16 12:51 pm UTC

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locke_cole, 2005-11-16 01:44 pm UTC

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te_alana, 2005-11-15 10:51 pm UTC

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tsuroki, 2005-11-15 10:59 pm UTC

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nightwng2000, 2005-11-15 11:24 pm UTC

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hilaryduffgta, 2005-11-15 11:25 pm UTC

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jabrwock, 2005-11-15 11:26 pm UTC

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hilaryduffgta, 2005-11-15 11:27 pm UTC

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jabrwock, 2005-11-15 11:25 pm UTC

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hilaryduffgta, 2005-11-15 11:28 pm UTC

I agree -

indystarx, 2005-11-16 12:04 am UTC

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awel_cruiz, 2005-11-16 12:50 pm UTC

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winter_b0rn, 2005-11-16 01:52 am UTC

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coopmoe, 2005-11-16 04:43 am UTC

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awel_cruiz, 2005-11-16 12:57 pm UTC

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alexshido, 2005-11-16 08:57 am UTC

Re: Hopefully First Post - (Anonymous), 2005-11-16 04:20 am UTC

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gamepolitics, 2005-11-16 12:17 pm UTC

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tonyrayo, 2005-11-17 12:42 am UTC

Re: Hopefully First Post - (Anonymous), 2005-11-17 04:32 pm UTC

jack thompson and videogames
(Anonymous)
2005-11-15 09:19 pm UTC (link)

I JUST THINK JACK THOMPSON IS AN IDIOT. I MEAN THE MILITARY TRAINS PEOPLE TO KILL ALL THE TIME AND IF SOMEONE KILLS, WHO WAS TAUGHT IN THE MILITARY BY THE WAY THEY WERE TRAINED THE MILITARY IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT YOU THE INDIVIDUAL IS RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS AND I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT JACK THOMPSON NEEDS TO REALIZE AND STOP TRYING TO BLAME OTHER PEOPLE FOR SOMEONE ELSE'S ACTIONS.

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	Re: jack thompson and videogames chicito21154 2005-11-17 01:09 am UTC (link)
	Do you know how many times people tried to make him realize? He just shuts his ears cause he cant take the truth, than he'll just lie about anything you throw at him or alter it to make it sound like game are the enemy. PS. Cut the caps. -Chicito (Reply to this) (Parent)

	If only I could declare stuff I didn't like a nuisance aresef 2005-11-15 09:22 pm UTC (link)
	And make it legally binding. I don't think professional wrestling is either professional or wrestling. Will I fight to have it banned from television? No. (Reply to this) (Thread)

Re: If only I could declare stuff I didn't like a nuisance

hilaryduffgta
2005-11-15 09:28 pm UTC (link)

ur anti wrestling..*gets mob* attack......No Just kidding...Well see man thats the difference between us People with Sense and Jack...Jack finds video games offensive....(quit the bs lies jack we know you hate them)....So Ms Jacky wants them Banned...as for me..I am a wrestling freak and a video game Freak...I do find it funny that jack tries to be all big and bad....Poor Poor Jack...Sometimes i wonder if he tries to get the Triple H Mentality...Trying to be a cerebral assasian but ends up Looking Like a Jackass....Though I may Not agree with Certain Things....I dont think Certain Things can be banned or should be banned because i find something offensive

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incendis_mind, 2005-11-16 02:22 am UTC

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hilaryduffgta, 2005-11-16 02:25 am UTC

ANTI GAMER LAWYER JACK THOMPSON
(Anonymous)
2005-11-15 09:23 pm UTC (link)

i think its unfair to put restrictions on videogames, i mean if states were to do the same thing to R-rated movies with nudity and graphic violence there would be outrage. so i would urge jack to reconsider his stance on videogames because this is unfair. and what about adult R-rated movies that show sexual intercourse intercourse and nudity like monsters ball with halle berry, and very graphic violence,all availible to children at stores with no restrictions so please dont single videogames out!

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	Re: ANTI GAMER LAWYER JACK THOMPSON hilaryduffgta 2005-11-15 09:30 pm UTC (link)
	Jack doesnt Give a flying crap about censoring Movies because he thinks games are more dangerous cause u press buttons...plus he has some really strange hatred against rockstar (Reply to this) (Parent)

	djtyrant 2005-11-15 09:25 pm UTC (link)
	I'm tempted to go buy his book but I want to avoid support Jack Thompson in any way. ~JimmY (Reply to this) (Thread)

	apathyislife 2005-11-15 09:27 pm UTC (link)
	That's the spirit. I really wanted to see Passion of the Christ (pretty much just to ridicule it), but under no circumstances did I want to add to the insane profits made by Mel. (Reply to this) (Parent)

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aniki21, 2005-11-16 04:26 am UTC

Some Commentary

bustermanzero
2005-11-15 09:25 pm UTC (link)

First off, Jack's book is finally out. Huzzah. I imagine there will be a delay at bookstores as they won't know whether to classify it as fiction or non-fiction, but either way it'll end up in the Humor Section.

Second, I think we can all agree with Dave, but it wouldn't surprise me if Jack tries to sue his 'harassing' rear end by the end of the week.

Finally, people have commented on the PSP. Well folks, remember that parents do buy things for their 10 year old kids, such as PSPs. But unless the commercials actually have the specific content in which people are killed, foul language is heard, or whatever would give the game its rating, its not breaking any laws. Heck, I've seen condom commercials on children's networks, but they never once explained what they were for. Just say you don't think the game should be advertised because you think you're in it, Jack, and stop making lame excuses.

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	Re: Some Commentary jabrwock 2005-11-15 09:51 pm UTC (link)
	but either way it'll end up in the Humor Section. The publisher has classified it as "Religious" (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

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viridiscervus, 2005-11-15 11:59 pm UTC

	otaku_cat 2005-11-15 09:25 pm UTC (link)
	I wanna download his book in PDF and read it on my PSP between playing random violent videogames. See which is more amusing. (Reply to this)

	Petitioning keddren 2005-11-15 09:26 pm UTC (link)
	If no one else has beat me to it, I'm going to petition Troy King to have Jack Thompson declard a nuisance. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	Re: Petitioning (Anonymous) 2005-11-15 09:53 pm UTC (link)
	My thoughts exactly. Hopefully someone reminds Mr. King of a certain case JT pulled out of... Ahem. (Reply to this) (Parent)

Re: Petitioning - (Anonymous), 2005-11-16 04:29 am UTC

	wow... this book makes you stupid apathyislife 2005-11-15 09:30 pm UTC (link)
	I read the first couple lines. to quote Chris Griffon of Family Guy "Now I don't know math anymore." Title: "To the Gates of Hell" no shortage of drama here. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	Re: wow... this book makes you stupid jindewinter 2005-11-15 10:34 pm UTC (link)
	The title is "To the Gates of Hell" but the chapter is about him marring his wife, bashing on Howard Stern, bashing on Janet Reno, and how he came to find God. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

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awel_cruiz, 2005-11-16 01:15 pm UTC

jervo
2005-11-15 09:31 pm UTC (link)

Oy.

Apropos of nothing, I went into my local game store the other day to pick up a copy of "The Warriors". There was a 14-year-old kid directly in front of me who also had a copy of it in his hands and was asking the clerk about it. Here's what the clerk had to say:

Clerk: Have you ever played Manhunt? It's kinda like that.
Kid: (mumbling) No...
Clerk: Have you even seen the movie?
Kid: No...
Clerk: Then you have no business playing this game.

Notice that nowhere in that conversation did the clerk ask how old this kid was. To my mind, THAT'S the issue - you don't sell cigarettes, beer or pornos to kids, and you shouldn't sell M+ rated games to kids either. That's not Rockstar's fault - that's the store's fault, and if Jack Thompson had a brain in his head he'd understand that.

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terr0rflare
2005-11-15 09:44 pm UTC (link)

Yeah, then if the clerk tells the kid, "This game is not for you," the kid will most likely have a cry to his mum about it, then the mum will harrass the clerk for trying to dictate what her son can or can't play, and it just becomes one big mess.

I've had this happen to me before (I work at an EBGames in Australia).

We have actually had the case when a mother returned Animal Crossing, because she didn't find the talking animals and "doing such stupid chores for the lazy animals" suitable for her 8-year-old son, then bought him GTA:SA instead.

This is no joke...

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beelzebozo, 2005-11-15 10:58 pm UTC

To quote a recent episode of 'South Park' - (Anonymous), 2005-11-16 04:40 am UTC

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awel_cruiz, 2005-11-16 01:33 pm UTC

advertising

sedyn
2005-11-15 09:34 pm UTC (link)

I'm more worried about the commercials for alcohol than games.

Advertising on TV is about 2 things:
1) reminding people that they should buy/consume something
2) informing people about a new product

Children read gaming magazines, gaming sites, etc. because they have time on their hands, and gaming interests them (not all, but most). I know that I was a lot more in touch with the upcoming releases of the gaming industry ten years ago than now.

Furthermore, you have to remember that children go to school, and are in classes with many other children with common interests. So all it takes is one gaming reader to inform many people through word-of-mouth. Just in case you were too old when video games became mainstream, I'll inform you that a common topic of conversation among school children is video games.

The conclusion of this, is that television is not an effective medium for video game advertising towards children.

Has anyone else noticed that there isn't that much advertising on television about gaming? Relatively to being a billion dollar industry.

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	Re: advertising uberfeiyenkn 2005-11-15 09:41 pm UTC (link)
	Did you miss all the commericals running for SC3 and The Movies? (Reply to this) (Parent)

amazon's blurb

apathyislife
2005-11-15 09:34 pm UTC (link)

just for convenience factor.

Book Description
Jack Thompson eats giants for breakfast. Just ask media giant and shock-jock Howard Stern, who ranted on air about the "one lunatic lawyer" who got him kicked off the air. Jack, an outraged father and activist lawyer, is on a mission to protect children from the violent and obscene video games, music lyrics, shock jock radio shows, and television programs he says are creating a culture of violence and degradation. Going beyond outrage, Thompson chronicles his own spiritual journey from bystander to activist and offers the sociological, medical, scientific, and legal evidence that will motivate all Americans--especially parents--to get involved.

Dunno about you, buuuuuuut, I think maybe I'll go back to reading Einstein's autobiography instead.

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	Re: amazon's blurb awel_cruiz 2005-11-16 01:36 pm UTC (link)
	Of course, Howard is now on Satellite radio where he is free to be as vulgar as he pleases for the first time in his career and has a five year contract reportedly worth $5,000,000. And yet, Jack claims victory over Stern. Typical JT circular logic. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	scazza 2005-11-15 09:35 pm UTC (link)
	Ha, i just seen it available for download on a ahem site, tempted to get it for fun...prolly just as fun to read as this: http://thetruthforyouth.com/standard/main.htm which is quite a hilarious read.. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	yeah.... apathyislife 2005-11-15 09:39 pm UTC (link)
	I wouldn't recommend it. You would think it would be absolutely hilarious, but skimming through chapter one... no, I think I'll pass on this one. I mean, I don't know about anyone else, but I for one just don't care about the guy's life. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

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scazza, 2005-11-15 09:41 pm UTC

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apathyislife, 2005-11-15 09:50 pm UTC

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scazza, 2005-11-15 09:52 pm UTC

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apathyislife, 2005-11-15 09:54 pm UTC

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apathyislife, 2005-11-16 05:54 pm UTC

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mrfalcon, 2005-11-16 10:55 pm UTC

	PSP uberfeiyenkn 2005-11-15 09:38 pm UTC (link)
	A PsP costs upwards of 200$ Last I checked most 10-14 year olds dont have that kind of money lying around unless mommy dearest is buying it for them. "Rated M? What do I care? My child is screaming and I want him out of my hair. I'll stick im in front of a game for hours and all will be well." (Reply to this) (Thread)

Re: PSP

hilaryduffgta
2005-11-15 09:41 pm UTC (link)

Yep thats how it is nowadays sad really..the parent would rather just buy a video game and a video game system so they dont have to deal with there child...Then if they dont want to be a god damn parent then call child services and have the child taken away...Though im sure jacky boy would defend the parent and say that "they had no idea what the game was about" remember the dumbass Lady who bought Grand theft auto for her 9 year old child and then said she was shocked by the content and had no idea what the game was about just by the name..GRAND THEFT AUTO!!!...Go after these ignorant parents jack and back the hell off the game industry...hell Maybe you should try being a parent sometime...

	Re: You lose, Jack! tsknf 2005-11-15 09:59 pm UTC (link)
	To get it declared a public nuisance, doesn't he have to prove it will cause people to get violent? There's the snag in Jack's plan right there.... (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	makin a trip to the library (Anonymous) 2005-11-15 09:54 pm UTC (link)
	Im gonna have to read that book just to see if Jack acts anything in the book like he does on gp (Reply to this) (Thread)

	You can’t declare something a nuisance just because you don’t like it. andrew_eisen 2005-11-15 09:55 pm UTC (link)
	Finally, Thompson has petitioned Troy King, Attorney General of Alabama, to have PSP title GTA: Liberty City Stories declared a nuisance. A public nuisance is an unreasonable interference with a right common to the general public. GTA: Liberty City Stories can be bought or left on store shelves as the public sees fit. How is this a nuisance? Andrew Eisen (Reply to this) (Thread)

	Re: You can’t declare something a nuisance just because you don’t like it. jabrwock 2005-11-15 09:59 pm UTC (link)
	Depends on the state law. In Florida you only need to vaguely accuse something of possibly being a health hazard to get an injunction against it. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	Ugh keddren 2005-11-15 10:09 pm UTC (link)
	I want the last twenty minutes of my life back. I just read the first chapter of that bunch of sub-literary masturbation and it's pretty much what I'd expect from our boy Jack. Brutal self promotionalism, faux self-pity, more lashing out as his favorite targets (Stern, Reno). I suppose the publisher will put any religious centric drivel on the shelves. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	Re: Ugh gasperskeltner 2005-11-15 10:12 pm UTC (link)
	It's Tyndale...a Christian Publishing House. Best known for putting out the decent series "Left Behind". (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	Re: You can’t declare something a nuisance just because you don’t like it. terr0rflare 2005-11-15 10:11 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, working at an EBGames myself (albeit in Australia), I wouldn't go too far with it... EBGames is far more concerned with making money, not a political statement :/ (Reply to this)

	Hmm. catch_33 2005-11-15 10:16 pm UTC (link)
	I've always been confident about everything, even when I have no reason to be. That explains a lot... (Reply to this)

	Library (Anonymous) 2005-11-16 05:38 am UTC (link)
	Don't spend your money...just get it at the library for free. That is, if they decide to carry it. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	Sent dennis a email hilaryduffgta 2005-11-15 10:21 pm UTC (link)
	WOndering if jack as informed him of what CHildren's Programming was showing ads for liberty city stories...as the ad seems the same as it was for Vice city and san andreas....Hopefully we will find out as i've said i've only seen ads for Lcc On G4 and i know that aint a childs show... (Reply to this) (Thread)

	Re: Sent dennis a email gamepolitics 2005-11-15 10:23 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, I'll ask him... Last time he complained about something like this the game was being advertised during the baseball playoffs.... (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

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