Game Politics ([info]gamepolitics) wrote,
@ 2005-11-07 08:36:00
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Chinese Government Plans Game Based on Communist Values

As reported in the Seattle Times, the Beijing government plans to develop a computer game that reinforces old-fashioned Communist values.

"Chinese Hero Registry," lets player mend socks, help old ladies get home in the rain, and prevent people from spitting in public. Successful play earns a signed virtual copy of Mao Tse-tung's Little Red Book. The new game is being developed for the government by Shanda, the largest game company in the People's Republic.

Amidst growing governmental concerns about game violence and addiction, Chinese Hero Registry will be a serialized game that will ultimately offer 100 playable heroes. The first five will include an incorruptible judge, a Ming Dynasty general, and an imperial eunuch who, according to legend, beat Columbus to the New World.

If Chinese Hero Registry doesn't sound like much fun to you, you're not alone. Scholar Zhang Chunliang, who specializes in online addiction among Chinese youth, is skeptical too.

"The problem is this game is not attractive enough to make the kids abandon the old games. It's like saying we've invented a new economy car that's really cheap and small and no one is going to want to drive a Mercedes anymore."




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[info]frifri
2005-11-07 02:20 pm UTC (link)
My initial reaction is to laugh my head off.

My secondary reaction is to feel really very sorry for those parts of the world whose governments haven't allowed them to progress past any lessons learned by WWII. China is a ticking time bomb, and I can't fathom this game making its citizens any happier with the card they've been dealt.

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(Anonymous)
2005-11-07 06:00 pm UTC (link)
You laugh at things you don't understand, and you attempt to hold their culture and beliefs besides your own, using your own as the absolute right. Such is not the case, but its not your fault. Western culture has always pounded home that they are the "ideal" society, while others are "bad".

The American military literally sends out scouts to fill the ranks, going so far as to harass or threaten young men and women until they join the armed forces just so that they can fill quotas. The US army also produces the game America's Army, which I no doubt force feeds the "glory" or the US to minors/gamers.

What they are doing is no different than this.

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[info]gopherian
2005-11-07 02:26 pm UTC (link)
This is what happens when government tries to regulate a creative industry.

Huge game companies are forced to make stuff like THIS.

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Awww.....
[info]the_new_l
2005-11-07 02:28 pm UTC (link)
Jack Thompson's going to have a field day with this one. "PORNOGRAPHIC COMMUNISM SIMULATORS ARE CORRUPTING OUR YOUTH!!"

"Uh...sir? This is a Chinese game."

"AAAAH! THEY'VE GOTTEN TO YOU, TOO!"

-TheNewL

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Re: Awww.....
[info]frifri
2005-11-07 02:32 pm UTC (link)
rofl

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Re: Awww..... - [info]cowboybeboper42, 2005-11-07 03:02 pm UTC
Re: Awww..... - [info]indystarx, 2005-11-07 05:04 pm UTC
Re: Awww..... - (Anonymous), 2005-11-07 05:52 pm UTC

[info]tyrillpaladin
2005-11-07 02:33 pm UTC (link)
I dunno... Preventing people from spitting in public sounds fun enough to make me play... UNTILL I DIE! O_O



... *Goes back to World of Warcraft*

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[info]sapper982
2005-11-07 02:42 pm UTC (link)
tons of fun, i do it in real life on my spare time!!

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(no subject) - [info]repton_infinity, 2005-11-07 09:30 pm UTC
Err?
(Anonymous)
2005-11-07 02:37 pm UTC (link)
So... Is this an MMO?

Because you gotta think about game balance. You don't want the power gamers to be able to mend more socks then the casual gamers.

Also, what about leveling? Can a high level stop more people from spitting with ... better gear/skills?

Also, can you play the character who walks around spitting on the side walk, and tries to avoid being caught? Because then, I'd play!

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now now
(Anonymous)
2005-11-07 02:41 pm UTC (link)
hahahaha this could be fun, and who doesnt want a signed virtual copy of the little red book, I ALWAYS WANTED ONE OF THOSE, IM GONNA PRE-ORDER IT RIGHT NOW, ok maybe not go that far, but could be either A) a fun game *cough* or B) a horrible train wreck for us to laugh at.... either way i win

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[info]bugarup
2005-11-07 02:44 pm UTC (link)
Dammit, I wanna play that! xD Yayyy propaganda!

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[info]king_awesome
2005-11-07 03:04 pm UTC (link)
Chinese Hero Registry? Even the title sounds like it reeks of Communism.

Personally, though, I would love to play this if it had a sort of free-roaming style, where you just go around busting caps in people's asses for not respecting the old Communist ways.

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[info]gargos
2005-11-07 03:07 pm UTC (link)
An incorruptable judge, eh?

And Jack probably still wonders why we say that video games are just fantasy.

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[info]radixgames
2005-11-07 03:24 pm UTC (link)
Let's wait until the game is made before we judge how much fun it'll be, eh? Capitalism-fanboys.

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[info]theflamecrow
2005-11-07 03:50 pm UTC (link)
actually, I'm supprised you didn't make something like this first... lol

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I agree - (Anonymous), 2005-11-07 04:40 pm UTC

[info]jyoudan_sensei
2005-11-07 03:26 pm UTC (link)
The question I want to know is do you have to take a break every three hours? If you don't, what happens to your hero?

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??
[info]the1jeffy
2005-11-07 03:45 pm UTC (link)
Any chance this will be released in the US, I sooo want to play this game. It probably will be edited by us capitalist pigs to make Communism out to be evil even if they do bring it over here. . . . .

Ok, seriously. What would ever make someone think that a game like this would be popular? In what alternate reality does this game NOT suck. I'm bored to tears just thinking about it. I still would like to play it, though, just to see if my initial opinion of suckage is founded or not.

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Re: ??
(Anonymous)
2005-11-07 07:12 pm UTC (link)
you think the US government would care if China tries to sell some crappy commie game in the US?

no one would buy it.

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(Anonymous)
2005-11-07 03:47 pm UTC (link)
I want to buy it just for how funny it will be. What system will it be for?
kilika_stryfe

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Might As Well
[info]catch_33
2005-11-07 03:56 pm UTC (link)
I've been a:

-Vampire
-Zombie
-Really big green guy
-Spartan warrior
-Gun-toting, sword-winging, half-demon bad-ass
-And about a thousand other things.

Might as well try being a communist.

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Re: Might As Well
[info]the1jeffy
2005-11-07 04:01 pm UTC (link)
Hmmm. . . good point. I doubt anyone outside of China can get a copy, though. A translated copy I should say, I can't read Mandarin.

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Re: Might As Well - [info]chinagoldfarmer, 2005-11-07 07:35 pm UTC
Re: Might As Well - [info]the1jeffy, 2005-11-07 07:45 pm UTC
Re: Might As Well - [info]tconx, 2005-11-07 09:00 pm UTC
Re: Might As Well - [info]the1jeffy, 2005-11-07 09:47 pm UTC

[info]aniki21
2005-11-07 04:00 pm UTC (link)
That game sounds pretty interesting, actually - I could see the slightly-wacky game mechanic working on the DS' touch-screen really well.

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Imperial Eunuch
[info]rich_d7
2005-11-07 04:00 pm UTC (link)
... naw, prefer my games to have more balls!

Rich

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GTA: China
[info]rich_d7
2005-11-07 04:06 pm UTC (link)
I hear Rockstar are already working on a sock mending mini-game for the latest GTA, so this game better hurry up and get released.

Rich

Ps: and in San Andrea's I can already "help old ladies get home in the rain", admittingly, their hanging on to the hood of my car at the time, but still...

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Well, at least it's original
(Anonymous)
2005-11-07 04:38 pm UTC (link)
...This has to be, far and away, the weirdest concept for a game I've ever heard.

Almost makes me want to play it.

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Mmm... Eduatainment
(Anonymous)
2005-11-07 04:39 pm UTC (link)
It would be interesting to see if a decent game could be pulled off from the specification. But really, has a game that been designed to educate or reinforce ideas ever been successful, or at least mildly interesting?

Also the idea of games being used as propaganda gives fuel to the Jack Thompson brigade that games are influencial on your mind.

--Consignia

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[info]jabrwock
2005-11-07 04:50 pm UTC (link)
and an imperial eunuch who, according to legend, beat Columbus to the New World.

I wonder when they say he did? Because the vikings beat Columbus by 500 years. Erik the Red's son visited the coast of Canada around 1000 AD. Never could get settled though, the locals were pretty ticked someone tried to move in on their turf, and so the vikings only built a couple of villages before getting booted back to Greenland.

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[info]_jeckel
2005-11-07 08:27 pm UTC (link)
Very true, I'm going to see about this (if I can find ANYTHING about it)if "an imperial eunuch" beat Columbus, and if he defeated the Vikings to it

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(no subject) - [info]_jeckel, 2005-11-07 08:54 pm UTC
Well what do you know... - [info]jabrwock, 2005-11-07 09:50 pm UTC
Re: Well what do you know... - [info]_jeckel, 2005-11-07 10:42 pm UTC
Re: Well what do you know... - [info]jabrwock, 2005-11-07 10:50 pm UTC
This is wonderful...
(Anonymous)
2005-11-07 05:04 pm UTC (link)
...as long as Chinese citizens are not forced to play this game. If our government made a game that reinforced good civic behavior instead of trying to censor and ban every game that didn't I would applaud the politician who started that initiative.

Granted, many Chinese citizens still don't enjoy the level of freedom we do in the US, but it is refreshing to see them take a less hostile approach towards games.

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Like everybody else...
[info]nightwng2000
2005-11-07 05:11 pm UTC (link)
I laughed a bit too at the beginning of the story. It just came out pretty funny.
There was a financial/political simulation about Russia a decade or 2 ago. From one of the same companies that put out Tetris.

This one sounds more like a historical/political version for China. True it will probably be biased, but still interesting. Like someone else said, we should wait for it to come out before we judge it. The list of characters mentioned at the end take the humor away somewhat. Not sure if it would be my kind of game or not. Still, sounds interesting.

nightwng2000

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Re: Like everybody else...
(Anonymous)
2005-11-07 05:59 pm UTC (link)
"There was a financial/political simulation about Russia a decade or 2 ago. From one of the same companies that put out Tetris."

You mean ELORG? Technically that was a branch of the Russian government, so the parallel you draw here is pretty much on target. I'm just surprised that in the midst of all this 'economic revolution' I've heard China's in the middle of that the Chinese government is producing a game like this. This isn't the 60's; I somehow doubt that a game that sounds like it came out of the Cultural Revolution is going to appeal to... well anybody.

Although, who knows. Americans have a part of the 60's that they'd like to forget too, and yet we keep making Vietnam games. Not the same thing, I know, but I agree with the scholar quoted in the news post.

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Re: Like everybody else... - [info]teh_anonymous, 2005-11-07 11:09 pm UTC
Re: Like everybody else... - [info]nightwng2000, 2005-11-08 12:41 am UTC
Colombus sucks
[info]bustermanzero
2005-11-07 05:43 pm UTC (link)
The guy was a moron, lets face it. Who gives a damn? The vikings landed on Vinland in 1088 or so! There's proof even! Enough with the Colombus damn it!

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Could go either way ...
[info]verbinator
2005-11-07 05:44 pm UTC (link)
It could be really awful ... as is often the case with any game promoting an ideology (I'm thinking of religious games in particular).

Or it could be really good, as has been the case with some recent Chinese movies (like Hero), which promote communist Chinese ideology through tales set in the distant past.

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Re: Could go either way ...
[info]jabrwock
2005-11-07 06:01 pm UTC (link)
Or it could be really good, as has been the case with some recent Chinese movies (like Hero), which promote communist Chinese ideology through tales set in the distant past.

That's true, Hero was done quite well, and wasn't very "preachy", so maybe there's hope for this game as long as they have good writers. I doubt they will though, it will probably fail it's first incarnation, and maybe after a few tries they'll realise that simply having a "wholesome" game isn't enough. You need a reason to identify with the characters, like a good storyline, or something equivalent. Imagine if America's Army was just one long commercial, and didn't have any "fun" gameplay. It would bomb.

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Wow.... just wow.
(Anonymous)
2005-11-07 06:01 pm UTC (link)
It would be interesting if it actually portrayed the creation of a communist state much like what was done in China. Mending socks? Helping people out?? What do they think we smoke here? How about oppress freedoms and stamp out opposition in order to maintain power and a lifestyle beyond that of the richest of monarchs?

Hoppywood has done enough to glamorize collectivism and communism for impressionable young minds. How about we keep to the facts and show what a corrupt and dehumanizing system communism truly is.

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Re: Wow.... just wow.
(Anonymous)
2005-11-08 12:44 am UTC (link)
China _has_ improved since the communist party started ruling. There was this period of extreme crapness. Then we had extremely fast modernization.

Life has been better for _so_ many people in China, but worse for another rather large amount. But China is progressing nicely... and it's not communist anymore. It's very capitalist. Still a corrupt and dehumanizing system, but you can't say China will be better off with democracy...

Good job for trying to educate children, I say.


Oh, and I'm Chinese Canadian, and I go back to China every summer. I actually have a clue.

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