Game Politics ([info]gamepolitics) wrote,
@ 2005-11-03 14:21:00
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Entry tags:devin moore, fayette, gta, jack thompson, strickland

Alabama Update..... GTA Cop Killer Lawsuit....

Here's what we know:

- court will be in session at 1:30 P.M. Central, or about now...

- lots of media are present, including at least one TV crew from ABC affiliate Channel 33. That tells GP there's a good chance ABC Evening News may have something on this tonight...

- we haven't confirmed this yet, but the "300 page attack" that Jack Thompson referred to was described by one knowledgeable source as a defense rebuttal to Thompson's responses on the Pro Hac Vice motion by which the defense seeks to remove him from the case.

UPDATE: GP just spoke to an employee at the Fayette County Courthouse who told us that the Strickland case was still in court, and no one had emerged in the two-plus hours since it started. We're not sure what that might mean, but it could be good news for Jack Thompson in as much as the Judge didn't toss the case immediately. Stay tuned for updates....

NO NEWS YET but GP did stumble across this Tuscaloosa News piece from earlier today.

UPDATE / 7:03 Eastern: A source familiar with the case informs us that no rulings were made today, but that Judge Moore did seem "incredulous" over some things he heard about Jack Thompson. Still waiting for more info...


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[info]wolfstar
2005-11-03 07:30 pm UTC (link)
Thanks for the semi-live coverage.

I know I, for one, will be refreshing frequently over the next couple hours.

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[info]dragoon1221
2005-11-03 07:39 pm UTC (link)
I appreciate it as well, it'll be fun to see how this turns out.

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(Anonymous)
2005-11-03 07:44 pm UTC (link)
Fun until they start going 'comics code' with videogames and no stores sell games other then Pokemon. Everything I've ever enjoyed has come under fire for being evil and raping children. Video games, D&D, comics, internet, boobies, even mixed martial arts. it's getting retarded.

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Boobies - [info]chinagoldfarmer, 2005-11-03 08:18 pm UTC
Re: Boobies - [info]goldelite, 2005-11-03 08:23 pm UTC
Re: Boobies - [info]expert_gamer, 2005-11-03 11:04 pm UTC
Re: Boobies - [info]chinagoldfarmer, 2005-11-03 11:36 pm UTC
Re: Boobies - [info]expert_gamer, 2005-11-03 11:58 pm UTC
Re: Boobies - [info]jonojacques, 2005-11-04 01:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-11-03 08:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]beelzebozo, 2005-11-04 12:56 am UTC

[info]quad9damage
2005-11-03 07:43 pm UTC (link)
I was planning on having a prose-cleaning marathon on my novel tonight, but if Jack's position in the case is overthrown, I think I might squeeze in a few hours of "San Andreas" ;-)

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[info]wolfstar
2005-11-03 07:44 pm UTC (link)
Hmmmm, I dunno about San Andreas (I, sadly, don't have it) - but I think I might have to shout the news from the rafters in a couple MMO games so that everyone knows. :)

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(no subject) - [info]artheleron, 2005-11-04 12:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]quad9damage, 2005-11-04 12:58 am UTC

[info]joshdavis271
2005-11-03 07:47 pm UTC (link)
the time is now for JT to lose, but that would take days or months, maybe a year, but, the process of him loseing has just begun.

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[info]jindewinter
2005-11-03 08:01 pm UTC (link)
Anyone know what time the ABC Evening News comes on over in California?

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[info]imahori
2005-11-03 10:07 pm UTC (link)
11PM. They also have news from 4PM-7PM.

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(Anonymous)
2005-11-03 08:07 pm UTC (link)
Will it take losing this to stop JT, or will he keep steaming forward? It seems that most people don't take him seriously anymore anyway.

Thanks for the updates!

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prolly not
[info]sundaos
2005-11-03 10:56 pm UTC (link)
I don't think anything except disbarment will stop Jack

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Re: prolly not - [info]artheleron, 2005-11-04 12:18 am UTC
Re: prolly not - [info]jdmdsp911, 2005-11-04 12:54 am UTC

[info]nutzoid
2005-11-03 08:08 pm UTC (link)
Will it take losing this to stop JT, or will he keep steaming forward? It seems that most people don't take him seriously anymore anyway.

Thanks for the updates!

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Re: And from our cameraman inside the courthouse...
[info]jindewinter
2005-11-03 08:26 pm UTC (link)
lol, love the OR ELSE! caption for the pic

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Re: And from our cameraman inside the courthouse... - (Anonymous), 2005-11-03 08:26 pm UTC
Re: And from our cameraman inside the courthouse... - [info]_jeckel, 2005-11-03 08:29 pm UTC
Re: And from our cameraman inside the courthouse... - (Anonymous), 2005-11-04 12:28 am UTC

[info]larpguide
2005-11-03 08:27 pm UTC (link)
I have a new microwave, have nuked some popcorn, let the show begin!

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Well...
[info]_jeckel
2005-11-03 08:31 pm UTC (link)
*looks at clock*
It's been exactly 1hr since the case started (as I write this)...
Awaiting further information...
I'm too eager to hear of how this ends this!!!

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[info]sallizar
2005-11-03 08:44 pm UTC (link)
Anybody else click through to the local ABC affiliates page?? Two shootings and a beating in the local news... Wonder if these were video game related too... :p

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Why, yes.
[info]the1jeffy
2005-11-03 09:12 pm UTC (link)
Of course they were! If those criminals were playing video games, they wouldn't have had time to shoot and beat real people.

New idea: Video Games as crime preventers!

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Nawn cekwiter
(Anonymous)
2005-11-03 08:58 pm UTC (link)
Totally unrelated, but I saw there was alink on the side to JT's book. I clicked on it to see what it was about, but has anyone noticed the "customers who bought this also bought..." section for his book on Amazon? Hehe, that's funny!

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Re: Nawn cekwiter
[info]aceofwilds
2005-11-03 09:37 pm UTC (link)
Yup, I actually took a snapshot of this and sent it to the Penny Arcade guys a couple weeks ago :).

Sadly, no response ; ;

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Re: Nawn cekwiter - [info]the1jeffy, 2005-11-03 09:46 pm UTC
Okay I have a theroy...
(Anonymous)
2005-11-03 09:50 pm UTC (link)
As to why he is only sueing Sony and both Wal-Mart and Gamestop at the same time. The parties just listed might be the only one that was involved (according to JAcko) in this case. Moore said he played GTA 3 and Vice City. So my guess is he bought one from Wal-Mart and one from Gamestop, and if they were only the PS2 versions of the games that ties in Sony and not Microsoft and PC ect. See he is not sueing the companies, the families he represents are. So he can only bring up names that (in his opinion) were involved with moore. Remember the case is that did these games make Moore shoot the cops. So, if it wasn't a PC version of the game or what ever else, then they have no juristion to sue Mircosoft, PC companies, Target, or whatever. He just might not be addmitting this so he can go back later and get them in a different case. But if he brings it up now he knows that it will be dissmissed. Thats just how I, logically, figure it. But then again I am assuming Jacko has logic...

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Re: Okay I have a theroy...
[info]marc_us
2005-11-03 10:07 pm UTC (link)
so whats your theory? that hes suing the company so if he wins he can bring it up in other court cases?

i dont think thats a theory. im pretty sure that is why he is so hell bent on fighting this case.

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Re: Okay I have a theroy... - [info]gasperskeltner, 2005-11-04 02:52 am UTC
Re: Okay I have a theroy... - [info]marc_us, 2005-11-04 02:59 am UTC
I wonder
[info]illspirit
2005-11-03 10:58 pm UTC (link)
Let's say for a second Jack does win this thing. Then, hypothetically, let's say some troubled individual dressed up like Jack Thompson as "Banman" from the mod, and then re-enacted one of the missions, like trashing a GameStop or something. Since it was all Jack's "modest proposal" to make the game, couldn't GameStop (or whoever the victim might be) sue Jack for damages using his very own precedent?

I know it sounds incredibly stupid, but it makes as much sense as what he's doing right now...

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Re: I wonder
(Anonymous)
2005-11-03 11:01 pm UTC (link)
I had hoped the people had made the mod featuring banman would have stuck to his script exactly as he wrote it and then include a scene at the end with Jack on trial for inspiring O.K. into doing all of the things he did.

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Re: I wonder - (Anonymous), 2005-11-03 11:05 pm UTC
Innocent Companies Being Harassed By the World
[info]expert_gamer
2005-11-03 11:31 pm UTC (link)
As far as I'm concerned, none of these companies that are being sued never did anything wrong. Devon Moore was not a minor when he bought and played GTA, so they can't accuse Gamestop or Wal-mart for selling to a minor. It is the consumers responsibility to use their own discretion when playing video games. It makes sick to see so many things being wrongfully accused because so many people are irresponsible.

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Re: The article mentioned
[info]andrew_eisen
2005-11-03 11:40 pm UTC (link)
It’s the thought that counts but you may want to delete your post.

From the Tuscaloosanews.com Subscriber Agreement

You may not modify, publish, transmit, participate in the transfer or sale of, reproduce (except as provided in Section 2.3 of this Agreement), create new works from, distribute, perform, display, or in any way exploit, any of the Content or the Service (including software) in whole or in part.

Copying or storing of any Content for other than personal use is expressly prohibited without prior written permission from The Tuscaloosa News, or the copyright holder identified in the copyright notice contained in the Content.

Registration is free anyway.


Andrew Eisen

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Re: The article mentioned - [info]aceofwilds, 2005-11-03 11:56 pm UTC
Re: The article mentioned - (Anonymous), 2005-11-04 03:27 am UTC
If he wins this - [info]hilaryduffgta, 2005-11-03 11:40 pm UTC
Re: If he wins this - [info]shaun_skipper, 2005-11-03 11:46 pm UTC
Re: The article mentioned - [info]_quix_, 2005-11-03 11:41 pm UTC
What do you think?
[info]andrew_eisen
2005-11-03 11:44 pm UTC (link)
The Tuscaloosanews.com article mentions that during his criminal trial, Moore’s attorneys tried to claim that playing Grand Theft Auto influenced his actions.

So what if it did? Does influence supersede personal accountability?


Andrew Eisen

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Re: What do you think?
[info]hilaryduffgta
2005-11-03 11:47 pm UTC (link)
apparently it does...since the game "influenced" Him he is not responsible for what he did.....guess the scapegoat theory will never go away

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Re: What do you think? - [info]andrew_eisen, 2005-11-04 12:08 am UTC
Hell yes - [info]hilaryduffgta, 2005-11-04 12:10 am UTC
Re: What do you think? - [info]shaun_skipper, 2005-11-03 11:53 pm UTC
Re: What do you think? - [info]hilaryduffgta, 2005-11-03 11:58 pm UTC
Re: What do you think? - [info]shaun_skipper, 2005-11-04 12:34 am UTC
Re: What do you think? - [info]andrew_eisen, 2005-11-04 12:36 am UTC
This is killing me
[info]quartermaine
2005-11-04 12:01 am UTC (link)
The suspense is getting to me. Is any one else excited/nervous? When's the earliest that we'll know anything? Later today? Tomorrow? Next week?

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Re: This is killing me
[info]hilaryduffgta
2005-11-04 12:06 am UTC (link)
", but that Judge Moore did seem "incredulous" over some things he heard about Jack Thompson"


"Incredulous"?????? Explain please

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Re: This is killing me - [info]aceofwilds, 2005-11-04 12:08 am UTC
Re: This is killing me - [info]quartermaine, 2005-11-04 12:10 am UTC
Re: This is killing me - [info]aceofwilds, 2005-11-04 12:17 am UTC
Re: This is killing me - (Anonymous), 2005-11-04 04:05 am UTC
Re: This is killing me - [info]araloki, 2005-11-04 02:32 pm UTC
Re: This is killing me - [info]gamepolitics, 2005-11-04 12:09 am UTC
Re: This is killing me - [info]_jeckel, 2005-11-04 12:08 am UTC

[info]quartermaine
2005-11-04 12:08 am UTC (link)
", but that Judge Moore did seem "incredulous" over some things he heard about Jack Thompson"


I do hope it works in our favor. God, all this judge has to do is google "Jack Thompson" and/or check his wikipedia page to know what a loon Jack is.

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Anyone surprised by this?
[info]bustermanzero
2005-11-04 12:13 am UTC (link)
A source familiar with the case informs us that no rulings were made today, but that Judge Moore did seem "incredulous" over some things he heard about Jack Thompson.

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Re: Anyone surprised by this?
[info]aceofwilds
2005-11-04 12:19 am UTC (link)
I couldn't have hoped for a better reaction from the Judge.

Considering the fact that the Defense was detailing a "300 page report" of Jack's behavior, I think it's safe to say that Jack has already lost...

But I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

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Re: Anyone surprised by this? - [info]hilaryduffgta, 2005-11-04 12:21 am UTC
Re: Anyone surprised by this? - [info]aceofwilds, 2005-11-04 12:26 am UTC
Could be good
[info]cowboybeboper42
2005-11-04 12:18 am UTC (link)
"but that Judge Moore did seem "incredulous" over some things he heard about Jack Thompson."

This could be good indeed.
I wonder if Jack told the Judge about Pearl Harbor 2...

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Re: Could be good
(Anonymous)
2005-11-04 12:39 am UTC (link)
Pearl Harbor 2: Electric Boogaloo

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Incredulous
[info]repsode
2005-11-04 12:32 am UTC (link)
I don't know.. Incredulous could mean either way, Either he doesn't beleive it or hes going "What? He said that?" in disbeleif.

I suppose all will be revealed in time.

Now if only I had a time machine. oh wait I have one in the garage! Anyone want the latest EA console! No? That's all there is in the future.

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Re: Incredulous
[info]aceofwilds
2005-11-04 12:35 am UTC (link)
Yeah, but can you imagine the questions the Judge is asking?

"Did you REALLY compare GTA to Pearl Harbor Jack??"

"Did you REALLY accuse the Japanese Government of polluting the American Youth with pornography?"

God what I wouldn't give to be in that courtroom.

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Re: Incredulous - [info]repsode, 2005-11-04 12:55 am UTC
Re: Incredulous - [info]mrfalcon, 2005-11-04 05:58 am UTC
No ruling today
[info]aceofwilds
2005-11-04 12:36 am UTC (link)
This isn't a bad thing, in fact since we know the Defense has submitted a "300 page report" of Jack's behavior, the most likely explanation for the case continuing is that the Judge wants to review all the material (no way would they have covered it all today).

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When a case gets dismissed
[info]quartermaine
2005-11-04 12:43 am UTC (link)
Doesn't it happen immediately? I fear this does not bode well. I hope I'm wrong.

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Re: When a case gets dismissed
(Anonymous)
2005-11-04 12:55 am UTC (link)
Not always immediately. If the hearing finished today (it's possible they'll start up again tomorrow), it could be as much as a month before a ruling. A lot of the time, when it's very likely they'll be an appeal, these rulings are written, which of course takes time.

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The exact meaning of "incredulous".
(Anonymous)
2005-11-04 12:58 am UTC (link)
"that Judge Moore did seem "incredulous" over some things he heard about Jack Thompson."

1. Skeptical; disbelieving: incredulous of stories about flying saucers.
2. Expressive of disbelief: an incredulous stare.

Sounds like Judge Moore doesn't believe whatever that 300 page attack on Jack Thompson said. So this would be a good thing for Thompson.

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Re: The exact meaning of "incredulous".
[info]tconx
2005-11-04 01:20 am UTC (link)
I didn't know what the word ment at first, but it sounded bad anyway (which is good). Looks like the Judge is starting to think the sames things about Thompson as we do! Hooray!

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Re: The exact meaning of "incredulous". - (Anonymous), 2005-11-04 01:55 am UTC
Re: The exact meaning of "incredulous". - [info]ace_ofspade, 2005-11-04 03:14 am UTC
Re: The exact meaning of "incredulous". - [info]jdmdsp911, 2005-11-04 05:37 am UTC

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