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Jack Thompson Finds a New Target: Japan

GamePolitics hasn't declared this to be "Jack Thompson Week," although it may have seemed that way at times to our readers.

Admittedly, our coverage of the controversial Miami attorney has increased as tomorrow's GTA cop killer trial approaches in Fayette County, Alabama. It is, after all, a moment that Jack Thompson has been pointing to for months in appearances on 60 Minutes, in the pages of Readers Digest, and, yes, even in the comments section of GamePolitics.

Barring unforeseen developments, GP offers a final pre-trial Thompson item for the reader's consideration. It is both remarkable and relevant, especially given the history and prominence of Japanese firms and creative types within the video game industry.

This story only began to emerge yesterday when Thompson e-mailed a press release touting tomorrow's court appearance in Alabama. Titled "Media Alert: Video Game Industry on Trial in Alabama, 11/1/05," the document began, "This Thursday, November 3, 2005, at 1 pm the Alabama fireworks ignite in the Fayette County Courthouse. This may make the OJ Simpson trials look like quilting bees."

GamePolitics covered the release at some length in yesterday's edition, although it was edited for length. According to the cc:'s on Thompson's e-mail, it was also sent to a variety of media outlets, both game-oriented and mainstream; Dr. David Walsh of the National Institute for Media and the Family; a variety of political figures, including Senators Hillary Clinton, Joe Lieberman, and Rick Santorum; Thompson's opposing counsel in the Alabama case, and others.

While the press release contained Thompson's usual over-the-top prose, one paragraph caught the attention of GP, as well as of several readers:

"Oh, and certain regional governments in Japan have banned the sale of the Grand Theft Auto games to minors, but Japan's Sony has no problem whatsoever dumping this garbage into American kids' brains. Looks like Pearl Harbor 2 by Sony/Take-Two..."

On its face the comment seems insensitive. But did Thompson really mean it the way it sounded? GamePolitics followed up with the self-described "anti-game crusader" via a series of e-mails.

GP: Jack - Some readers are taking offense to the Pearl Harbor comments in your press release, and I have to say that it does read as a somewhat insensitive remark. Would you care to comment on that section or elaborate further on what you were trying to convey?

JT: Insensitive? What the Japanese are doing to our kids is insensitive and racist. The Japanese have for a very long time dumped pornography into this country in a fashion they would not tolerate in their own country. It is another version of Pearl Harbor.

GP: By porn, I take it you mean violent video games? Are you referring to various Japanese-made game platforms? (i.e. PS2, Nintendo, etc.) But Take-Two is an American corp., and Rockstar an English subsidiary. Most of the games I can recall you criticizing over the years have been American-published.. (GTA, 25 to Life, Bully, The Warriors, The Sims, Blitz: The League, Everquest, Doom, etc.)

JT: Sony is a Japanese company.

GP: But Sony only makes the player. I don't recall you criticizing any of their titles in a major way. If you take that approach, wouldn't TV, VCR, and DVD player manufacturers be equally complicit? Since their products play violent movies and even actual porn? And are also needed to play video games?
Toshiba, etc.?


JT: GTA is a Sony/Take-Two game. It was made by Take-Two exclusively for Sony's Playstation 2. Sony has led the planet in the distribution of mainstream porn. I don't have time to document it for you. As for the offensiveness of the Pearl Harbor comment, it's accurate and it's needed. The Japanese have a contempt for our culture which is patent. There (sic) dumping of garbage into our culture is a slow motion version of Pearl Harbor.

Thompson followed up with a letter on the topic to Japanese Ambassador Ryoko Kato. For space reasons, GP has attached it as a comment.




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Jack Thompson Letter to Japanese Ambassador
[info]gamepolitics
2005-11-02 03:24 pm UTC (link)
The Honorable Ryoko Kato
Ambassador Extraordinary and Plenipotentiary
Japan to the United States of America
2520 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. Via Fax to 202-xxx-xxxx

Re: Sony's Ongoing Distribution of Violent and Pornographic Material to Minors in the United States


Dear Mr. Ambassador:

As a United States citizen who has been active and visible in opposing Sony's distribution of hyperviolent and sexually explicit video games to children in this country, I would respectfully request that your nation's government assist me in making this harmful distribution stop.

This request comes in the aftermath of recent news reports that certain local/regional governments in Japan will not allow, for example, the grotesque Sony/Take-Two/Rockstar Grand Theft Auto games to be sold to children in your country but Sony is more than delighted to distribute these games to our children in our country.

This is hypocrisy, and it must be remedied. Japan cannot allow to be done to our children what it will not allow to be done to its own.

Regards, Jack Thompson

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Re: Jack Thompson Letter to Japanese Ambassador
[info]konrad_arflane
2005-11-02 03:44 pm UTC (link)
Why is this hypocrisy? Is it the responsibility of the Japanese government to pass laws protecting the citizens of the United States? Wouldn't that be considered rather impolite at the least, seeing as the US has a government of its own that should be fully capable of passing such laws?

And how on earth would the Japanese authorities enforce such legislation - do you propose to entitle Japanese law enforcement officers to operate on American soil, or Japanese courts to pass judgement on American businesses for acts committed in the US?

Or (ahem) do you want Japan to stop exporting violent video games altogether? Wouldn't that be contrary to your recent claim that all you want is to prevent violent video games from falling into the hands of minors?

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[info]zerochan
2005-11-02 03:27 pm UTC (link)
"The Japanese have for a very long time dumped pornography into this country in a fashion they would not tolerate in their own country. It is another version of Pearl Harbor."

Jack hasn't been to Akihabara, has he? Nowadays there's less games and electronics and more PORN PORN PORN. Out where the foreign tourists - including kids - can easily see it.

This describes a lot of places in Japan, actually.

typical ignorant 馬鹿外人.

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[info]zerochan
2005-11-02 03:32 pm UTC (link)
I forgot to mention the whole hentai manga, anime, and games industry. Cute drawn and animated stuff that can be incredibly disturbing porn. I think if Jack saw some of the lolicon stuff the Japanese eat up he'd have a fucking heart attack.

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(no subject) - [info]tyrillpaladin, 2005-11-02 04:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]zerochan, 2005-11-02 03:36 pm UTC
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[info]udx
2005-11-02 03:28 pm UTC (link)
Ya know, if I was in Jack THompson's place, I would also request that Microsoft be added to the people involved in that lawsuit, calling them the Hitler of the video game industry, Sony the Tojo of the video game industry, and Nintendo the Mussolini of the video game industry(Because their mascot is an italian plumber)

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[info]tollwutig
2005-11-02 03:31 pm UTC (link)
I am rendered speechless

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Oh, Jack
[info]skilletaudio
2005-11-02 03:34 pm UTC (link)
You're my favorite fluffy bunny.

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[info]hexrei
2005-11-02 03:36 pm UTC (link)
GTA is a Sony/Take-Two game. It was made by Take-Two exclusively for Sony's Playstation 2.

Huh? GTA was a PC game, as was GTA2. GTA3 was not exclusive to the Playstation, it was also released on PC platform.

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[info]mandrakegeek
2005-11-02 05:00 pm UTC (link)
I've been wondering the same thing for a while now too... it kind of has me puzzled as to why he would take on Sony but not want to take on Microsoft?

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-11-02 10:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cecil475, 2005-11-02 05:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lord_xilef, 2005-11-02 05:53 pm UTC
He already did - [info]jdmdsp911, 2005-11-03 03:02 am UTC
Re: He already did - [info]lord_xilef, 2005-11-03 04:52 am UTC
"American company"?! - [info]conorclancy, 2005-11-04 08:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]xeroproject, 2005-11-02 06:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]premo_maggot, 2005-11-02 07:57 pm UTC
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You forgot something - [info]jdmdsp911, 2005-11-03 03:25 am UTC
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[info]godofyouall
2005-11-02 03:36 pm UTC (link)
Sony has led the planet in the distribution of mainstream porn

What has this guy been smoking?

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I don't know..
[info]ace_ofspade
2005-11-02 03:41 pm UTC (link)
But I want some

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Re: I don't know.. - [info]tollwutig, 2005-11-02 05:54 pm UTC
it apparently aint - [info]hilaryduffgta, 2005-11-02 07:05 pm UTC
Re: it apparently aint - (Anonymous), 2005-11-02 07:41 pm UTC
Re: it apparently aint - [info]tollwutig, 2005-11-02 08:49 pm UTC
Re: it apparently aint - [info]hilaryduffgta, 2005-11-02 09:51 pm UTC
Re: it apparently aint - (Anonymous), 2005-11-03 02:55 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-11-08 05:07 am UTC

[info]tittergrrl
2005-11-02 03:38 pm UTC (link)
Of course... everyone also knows that Japan is also responsible for impurifying our precious bodily fluids.

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Strangelove
(Anonymous)
2005-11-02 04:09 pm UTC (link)
I do not hate Japan-- but I do deny them my essence.

--Joe Marino

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(no subject) - [info]booticon, 2005-11-02 04:53 pm UTC
first time posting...so, hi!
[info]railven_marquis
2005-11-02 03:39 pm UTC (link)
"GTA is a Sony/Take-Two game. It was made by Take-Two exclusively for Sony's Playstation 2."

I just wanted to point out that this game has been released on the X-Box and PC platform. After the contract with Sony expired Rockstar/Take-Two took no hesitation in increasing their profit and market by redistributing the game.

I wonder with that knowledge would Jack dare sue Microsoft...do you think so?

When Game-Politic kept stating American companies affiliated with this lawsuit Jack disregarding them focusing on Sony, a foreign company, as the culprit. I wonder if he’d ever bring this lawsuit to Microsoft if a PC-Gamer or X-box-Gamer ever committed such a crime.

~R

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Re: first time posting...so, hi!
[info]tollwutig
2005-11-02 04:15 pm UTC (link)
Hmm Walmart and Microsoft on the same lawsuit? The 2 most powerful companies in the US. Microsoft who defied the Justice department because it was cheaper to pay a $1,000,000 a month fine than to change thier software?

Microsoft would probably break JT, and badly. Hell Microsoft is now threatening to quit selling to South Korea cause they raised a anti-trust law against them. Microsoft and Walmart are individually bigger than a lot of countries, if they teamed up on someone.... well I would have to pity them.

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[info]turbopunk
2005-11-02 03:40 pm UTC (link)
There are so many flaws in his argument, it is shocking. Granted, Jack is as entitled to his opinion and beliefs as much as anyone else. I know it is going to be someone far removed from the industry that will spearhead the campaign for reform. However, I just really wonder how someone so removed from the industry can speak eloquently on an industry in which he doesn't take the time to research the inner workings of the industry.

And as far as the "pornography" part, someone should send him a link to some of the Japanese "dating" sims, like Sexy Beach 2.

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i was just gonna say that
[info]hilaryduffgta
2005-11-02 06:47 pm UTC (link)
cause from what i heard on x play japan is filled with porn...all freakin over not to mention they have done a few shows there and have commented on how much porn is around....oh well leave it to jack to not even do some research

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(no subject) - [info]origamifrog, 2005-11-02 09:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]turbopunk, 2005-11-02 10:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]aberranteyes, 2005-11-05 04:19 pm UTC
Bullshot
[info]ace_ofspade
2005-11-02 03:40 pm UTC (link)
Correct me if I’m wrong, but GTA isn’t Sony exclusive. Sony has no role in it, what are they supposed to say, “We don’t want your best-selling game on our console”? GTA has appeared on Xbox, PC, and GBA in one form or another. We need someone who actually knows ass-crack about the industry to be involved. This just backs up the facts that-
1) Jack is a racist bastard who hates anything that isn’t a white Roman-Catholic.
2) He doesn’t know anything about the industry he has devoted his life to stopping.
By the way Jack, it would take more then 10,000$ to make a game, even if someone took up your little offer.

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Re: Bullshot
[info]baldynomad
2005-11-02 04:50 pm UTC (link)
Wow, yeah. He should be taking Microsoft, Nintendo, and every PC manufacturer to court too.

Someone DID take him up on his offer. Some GTA fan-made missions appeared, which if I'm not mistaken, included Jack himself in a video game. And of course, Jack didn't pay. The folks of Penny-Arcade paid for him. He got pissed at them for doing so. Great fun.

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Re: Bullshot - [info]konrad_arflane, 2005-11-02 09:04 pm UTC

[info]jervo
2005-11-02 03:41 pm UTC (link)
Why isn't he suing Microsoft, then? After all, the GTA series is NOT made exclusively for the Playstation 2 - I happen to own Windows PC versions of GTA3 and Vice City, and I have GTA3, Vice City and San Andreas on my Microsoft Xbox.

Would it help if I mentioned that I haven't killed or raped or maimed anyone? I'm sure I'm in the minority, though - us pixelante pukes are apparently murdering and raping and maiming all over the place.

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You say you aren't now!
[info]amisplacedphile
2005-11-02 04:03 pm UTC (link)
But ou're a ticking time bomb! Be sure to put JT on speed-dial so you can help scapegoat microsoft being the source of your future problems!

Can't get married? Can't have kids? BEcame a killer? Blame the game! Don't accept responsibility for your actions! Plead ignorance!

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This man makes Nedra Ruiz seem competent
(Anonymous)
2005-11-02 03:45 pm UTC (link)
Throughout this whole ridiculous spectacle, one simple truth has become apparent:

Jack Thompson hates freedom, and he hates us for our freedom.

Also, if he's going to call video games "porn," I'm going to call golf "pederasty." Hey Jack, knocked any strokes off your pederasty game lately?

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This little piggy went to market... >BLAM<
[info]getwellgamer
2005-11-02 03:46 pm UTC (link)
I can't believe he was actually dumb enough to clarify on the side of being racist. Even a complete idiot would know to backpedal after such a comment, but apparently ol' Jack hasn't shot himself in the foot enough times this week...

http://www.get-well-gamers.org/

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Re: This little piggy went to market... >BLAM<
(Anonymous)
2005-11-03 02:30 am UTC (link)
Yeah. Eventually he'll reduce what were his feet to stubs with the way he's acting.

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Re: This little piggy went to market... >BLAM< - [info]jago_ai, 2005-11-03 08:02 am UTC
Well I thought that last letter was bad...
(Anonymous)
2005-11-02 03:48 pm UTC (link)
I know these quotes are going to sound even more incredulous taken out of the context of his ever cheery comments, but I just can resist examing them further.

"Insensitive? What the Japanese are doing to our kids is insensitive and racist."
I won't even try to find a rational answer for how he decided that Sony selling video games to a consumer group who clearly wants to buy said product as racist in any shape or form. I think the 70 million people who actually buy the games would of raised somekind of objection if it was indeed deemed racist or insensitive.

"As for the offensiveness of the Pearl Harbor comment, it's accurate and it's needed."
He admits that it is indeed offensive but, hey why would that stop anyone from trying to draw parrells between a wartime strategic bombing of a naval harbour that caused multiple causalities and destruction to a Japanese electronics company selling their product to the rest of the world (yes, Europe too).

"There (sic) dumping of garbage into our culture is a slow motion version of Pearl Harbor."
This quote just confuses me completely. Ignore the fact that America (and most of Europe for that matter) 'dumps' games AND pornography into their culture in an identical fashion; but where is the slow-motion death and carnage brought about by an event tragic enough to compare to an ariel bombing run on a populated area.

Lets not forget who dropped the big bombs in the end....

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Re: Well I thought that last letter was bad...
[info]tyrillpaladin
2005-11-02 04:05 pm UTC (link)
You might also mention that the distribution of video games helps both Japanese and American economies, as opposed to Pearl Harbor which cost both countries millions. <_<

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Re: Well I thought that last letter was bad... - [info]udx, 2005-11-02 04:20 pm UTC
Re: Well I thought that last letter was bad... - [info]udx, 2005-11-02 04:21 pm UTC
Re: Well I thought that last letter was bad... - [info]winter_b0rn, 2005-11-02 04:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]antitype, 2005-11-02 05:44 pm UTC
He already did - [info]jdmdsp911, 2005-11-03 03:38 am UTC
GTA is not Sony-exclusive, Jack.
[info]grombar
2005-11-02 03:48 pm UTC (link)
Please try and get your facts straight before you dig yourself in any deeper.

On second thought, keep doing what you're doing.

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its on the PC and XBOX too!
(Anonymous)
2005-11-02 03:51 pm UTC (link)
As others have mentioned here too, I have one problem with the Sony argument, Why is he not suing Microsoft, Dell, HP, Gateway, etc too? GTA games originated on the PC (GTA and GTA: London 1969) and all GTA games except those made for the Game Boy and PSP have been on the PC. AS you know it has also appeared on the XBOX.

They are unaltered from their Playstation console versions except for control changes and in more modern version, MP3 capabilities. Yet as far as my understanding goes, Mr. Thompson has ignored those companies.

GP, can you ask Mr. Thompson about his ignoring of the other console makers and PC makers?



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Re: its on the PC and XBOX too!
(Anonymous)
2005-11-02 04:06 pm UTC (link)
There's a very specific reason he's not suing Microsoft in the process of all this: Stupid as he makes himself out to be, and utterly ignorant of anything resembling actual knowledge of the video games he crusades against, he is perhaps not quite as stupid as we all like to think. Suing Microsoft would have Bill Gates all over Jack Thompson, and I think as little chance as JT has of beating Sony, he has much less chance at beating BG. If the United States government couldn't do it, a Florida attorney with serious superiority-complex issues has no chance of even hoping.

I'd like to say, too, that the idea of the shipping of video games into a viable market, where the consumer makes the choice as to whether or not to buy the product being compared to the horrific bombing of Pearl Harbor is at best ludicrous, and at worst insulting to both the Japanese people and the United States populace. We dropped atomic bombs, at the end of the single bloodiest war in modern history, for that single act. Does JT want us to drop hydrogen bombs on Japan, now, and obliterate their supposed pornographic industry?

What I find truly amusing, however, is that all the "murderer-simulations/trainers" Jack has been so adamant in arguing against all emanate from American companies. So if these items are, indeed, pornographic (which they're not), then how can we blame another country for our own fascinations, and our own problems involved therein? Forgetting, of course, about Iraq.

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Re: its on the PC and XBOX too! - [info]joshdavis271, 2005-11-03 05:05 pm UTC

[info]hudsonshrk
2005-11-02 03:58 pm UTC (link)
The Japanese have for a very long time dumped pornography into this country in a fashion they would not tolerate in their own country.

Just a thought but what about all the crap we are dumping on the rest of the planet when it comes to entertainment. How many countries have complained about how through varius media we are forcing our culter onto them and their societies.

H.S.

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[info]i_am_stillwater
2005-11-02 04:11 pm UTC (link)
... the logic is lost to me.

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[info]tyrillpaladin
2005-11-02 04:11 pm UTC (link)
Wait... Is Sony even really a Japanese company anymore? I thought they went fully international. I know there are Sony America and Sony Japan offices and I would assume, judging on the fact that GTA was made in America, the distribution was handled by Sony America, with little to no involvement by Sony Japan. Considering that's that way certain Video Game manufacturers do it, such as Square-Enix, which is centered in Japan, then naturalized to the US. Similarly, GTA has gotten the same treatment in reverse. Although, I also recall GTA-style games selling rather poorly in Japan...

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[info]zerochan
2005-11-02 04:31 pm UTC (link)
Sony's CEO is Howard Stringer, a British man, which is extremely unusual for a major Japanese company. They're pretty xenophobic about that.

Capcom published the game in Japan, BTW.

I've studied Japanese business and the JP games industry for years, so I can shoot holes in Jack's argument all day. Unfortunately I'm too busy playing Fire Emblem to care right now!

(Anyone want to place bets on when Jack starts to go after anime and manga?)

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Considering that anime only counts for about 2% of all video revenue... - [info]maturra, 2005-11-02 10:31 pm UTC
GTA Japan Sales.... - [info]phoenixzero, 2005-11-02 06:52 pm UTC
A question about Sony, SCEI and SCEA
(Anonymous)
2005-11-02 04:14 pm UTC (link)
Sony own SCEI and SCEI own SCEA, who are responsible for the distribution of the PS2 and its software in the US. I know little about corporate law, so given that the companies are ran as seperate entities which one of these is legally responsible for the PS2 in the country? If as I suspect it's SCEA why is Jack writing to the Japanese Ambassador about an American company supplying products in America?

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Re: A question about Sony, SCEI and SCEA
[info]awel_cruiz
2005-11-02 06:35 pm UTC (link)
As has been stated before, Jack rarely allows things like logic and sense to get in the way of his viewpoints.

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[info]moriarty70
2005-11-02 04:16 pm UTC (link)
I mean, my god. I didn't realize that Jack doesn't only view himself as a Soldier for God, but he also think's he's the Chruchill/Rosevelt of God as well.

Besides, if he loses this case, it will still be a victory because the companies are evil and he is God's chosen man, therefore, he wins by default.

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[info]lotharhex
2005-11-02 04:16 pm UTC (link)
Paging Mr. Racist, Mr Racist. The Japanese want a very stern word with you. They have many large robots with them.

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[info]keddren
2005-11-02 04:23 pm UTC (link)
My monitor thanks you for its coffee bath.

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(no subject) - [info]jindewinter, 2005-11-02 04:41 pm UTC
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Yeah, Ninjas are japanese... - [info]kungfu_tse, 2005-11-02 06:59 pm UTC
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[info]rhapsody
2005-11-02 04:18 pm UTC (link)
I would argue about it but just everything minus the names is incorrect information. Jack should, at least, google like the rest of us to find out exactly what he's squawking about. C'mon, Jack. I swear it's not hard. You can obviously type and use the mouse.

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Hypocratic Oath
[info]rasenkrieger
2005-11-02 04:20 pm UTC (link)
I'm waiting for the day that they find a stash of kiddie porn in his home or office and realize just what a pedantering fool this hypocrit is.
He seems intent on simply creating as many spotlights as possible so he can bathe himself in the limelight, in the end this case will determine what happens, if by some chance they rule that the game was responsible, which in it of itself is a ridiculous defence because it would lead the way to other defendants using the excuse "oh this game or this movie made me do it" and thusly the world becomes completely free of responsibility, well sa I was saying if they rule the game industry culpable then he will gain some more fervor which has the potential to become a serious disaster for all forms of entertainment.
Though if it is ruled that the Devin Moore was culpable and responsible for his own actions it will be a positive precedent, helping to show that we are all responsible for our actions.

Personally I do not understand why Mr. Thompson has decided to elect himself as a high inquisitor and seek to purify us all. Most importantly is the fact that like the original inquisition, we did not ask to be saved or 'converted'.
This is his own private crusade that he is consistently spamming to as many screens as possible. As many times as he has screamed that he is being harrassed and extorted, which i do not understand myself, extortion implies that the other party is receiveing something from Mr. Thompson, he himself is consistently harrassing anyone who opposses him. I believe he thinks himself somehow empowered by the people, even so far as to claiming backing from various organizations that frnakly want nothing to do with him. The most notable example is his harrassment of Penny Arcade.

While ignoring him might seem the prudent course of action his constant need to draw in the authorities and attempt to have them arrest anyone arguing the otherside is creating a situation where he is not unnoticeable. The death threats and threats to do harm to him though are also not a valid means of dealing with him, they only add verifiable flame to his claims of harrasement. In the end I think it would simply be ebtter to have the man sit down and thoroughly and competently explain what he is trying to do, why he is doing it, and more importantly why he believes that he needs to do this let alone speak on behalf of those that can speak for themselves.

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Re: Hypocratic Oath
[info]razor5
2005-11-02 05:49 pm UTC (link)
"I believe he thinks himself somehow empowered by the people, even so far as to claiming backing from various organizations that frnakly want nothing to do with him."

I fear that it is far worse than that. He believes that he is empowered by God.

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Re: Hypocratic Oath - [info]hilaryduffgta, 2005-11-02 06:51 pm UTC

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