gamepolitics: Take a Peek at the NIMF Letter to Jack Thompson

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gamepolitics) wrote,
@ 2005-10-17 10:46:00

Take a Peek at the NIMF Letter to Jack Thompson

It's the poison pen letter that has been the buzz of the gaming world since GamePolitics revealed its existence on Friday.

If you'd like to see the Dave Walsh-to-Jack Thompson letter that everyone is talking about, be our guest.

NIMF Letter, Page One

NIMF Letter, Page Two

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	Source? jabrwock 2005-10-17 03:28 pm UTC (link)
	Just out of curiosity, did NIMF send a copy to GP, or did it come from another source? Or did Jack forward it to you? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	Re: Source? gamepolitics 2005-10-17 03:57 pm UTC (link)
	Sorry, on this one I can't really say... (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

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imahori, 2005-10-17 04:09 pm UTC

*gasp* -

jabrwock, 2005-10-17 04:10 pm UTC

"Re: Source?" Jack Thompson Here - (Anonymous), 2005-10-17 06:14 pm UTC

Re: "Re: Source?" Jack Thompson Here -

gamepolitics, 2005-10-17 06:31 pm UTC

Re: "Re: Source?" Jack Thompson Here -

shaun_skipper, 2005-10-17 06:45 pm UTC

Re: "Re: Source?" Jack Thompson Here -

jabrwock, 2005-10-17 06:49 pm UTC

Re: "Re: Source?" Jack Thompson Here -

cowboybeboper42, 2005-10-17 08:27 pm UTC

Re: "Re: Source?" Jack Thompson Here -

amusingman, 2005-10-17 11:18 pm UTC

	toshirotzu 2005-10-17 04:19 pm UTC (link)
	I take it there's nothing new happening in the video game political world so you reposted this? We get it, Jack was pwnted by his biggest ally, please tell me there's something more going on before my eyes begin to bleed. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	jabrwock 2005-10-17 04:27 pm UTC (link)
	I take it there's nothing new happening in the video game political world so you reposted this? Maybe someone accused him of not actually receiving the letter? Whereas this shows that someone most certainly did fax it to GP, and their name is [edited by the Secret Service]! Hey! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	gamepolitics 2005-10-17 04:36 pm UTC (link)
	No, stuff is happening. I thought folks might be interested in a glimpse at the actual letter, rather than a text version. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

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tsknf, 2005-10-17 04:39 pm UTC

Stuff?? -

jabrwock, 2005-10-17 04:45 pm UTC

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toshirotzu, 2005-10-17 05:26 pm UTC

OT - crimes inspired by videogames

jabrwock
2005-10-17 06:11 pm UTC (link)

http://www.uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Crimes_inspired_by_video_games

Good for a laugh.

Ever since video games became popular, politicians such as Jack Thompson, Joe Lieberman, and Hillary Clinton have repeatedly stated that they (the games, not the politicians) have caused children and teenagers to become evil criminals bent on the ruination of society. According to these politicians, playing a video game even for five minutes can turn a person into a violent lunatic. The massive numbers of so-called "devil devices" have been directly responsible for numerous crimes, and this article attempts to document all crimes inspired by video games.

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Re: OT - crimes inspired by videogames

jervo
2005-10-17 06:23 pm UTC (link)

Is there actually a list that JT has compiled detailing videogame-inspired crimes? I'd love to see it. Especially if any of them involve minors killing people with guns. Because I would LOVE JT to explain how it's perfectly ok for a kid to have access to firearms.

Look, I'm actually for limiting access to violent videogames to minors - I wouldn't want my child playing GTA, and being that I'm a gamer myself I'd make sure that I'd take an interest in the sort of videogames my child would want to play. You know, it's that thing called being a responsible parent.

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Re: OT - crimes inspired by videogames -

jabrwock, 2005-10-17 06:43 pm UTC

	Re: OT - crimes inspired by videogames tsknf 2005-10-17 06:30 pm UTC (link)
	Hey, I posted that first on G-a-j. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

Re: OT - crimes inspired by videogames -

jabrwock, 2005-10-17 06:44 pm UTC

Re: OT - crimes inspired by videogames -

teh_anonymous, 2005-10-17 06:49 pm UTC

Re: OT - crimes inspired by videogames -

jabrwock, 2005-10-17 06:53 pm UTC

Someone should interview Jack's Wife

teh_anonymous
2005-10-17 06:35 pm UTC (link)

F'reals yo. She's living with a man who's receiving a lot of flack across the board and who's stirring up tons of controversy. How does she feel about this? Does she agree with her husbands "extremist" views? How does she support him in tough times like the recent "Walsh Fiasco"? Does she work to support the family while her husband is away chasing the illsuive court settlment jackpot with the video game industry?

'Cuz, you know, all this "exclusivity" on GP is really nice, but how about some "investigative journalism"?

-Anonymous-

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	Re: Someone should interview Jack's Wife tsknf 2005-10-17 06:42 pm UTC (link)
	Could you please try not to sound like a rock star? Thanks. But no doubt she supports him, or their marriage would have been over ages ago. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

Re: Someone should interview Jack's Wife -

teh_anonymous, 2005-10-17 06:47 pm UTC

Re: Someone should interview Jack's Wife -

tsknf, 2005-10-17 06:51 pm UTC

Someone should not interview Jack's Wife -

jabrwock, 2005-10-17 06:54 pm UTC

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tsknf, 2005-10-17 06:56 pm UTC

Re: Someone should not interview Jack's Wife -

jabrwock, 2005-10-17 07:10 pm UTC

Re: Someone should not interview Jack's Wife -

teh_anonymous, 2005-10-17 06:59 pm UTC

Re: Someone should not interview Jack's Wife -

jabrwock, 2005-10-17 07:04 pm UTC

Re: Someone should not interview Jack's Wife -

tsknf, 2005-10-17 07:07 pm UTC

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teh_anonymous, 2005-10-17 07:17 pm UTC

Re: Someone should not interview Jack's Wife -

tsknf, 2005-10-17 07:22 pm UTC

Re: Someone should not interview Jack's Wife -

jabrwock, 2005-10-17 07:37 pm UTC

Re: Someone should not interview Jack's Wife -

teh_anonymous, 2005-10-17 08:58 pm UTC

Re: Someone should not interview Jack's Wife -

jabrwock, 2005-10-17 10:34 pm UTC

Re: Someone should not interview Jack's Wife -

teh_anonymous, 2005-10-17 11:11 pm UTC

Dumping it on the parents.

teh_anonymous
2005-10-17 06:44 pm UTC (link)

I truly am unable to come to terms that the current issues of minors having access to violent video games is 100% the fault of the parents. Maybe I'm just allergic to certain extremes, but when I see posters on GP talk about "it's the parents' responsibility" or "it's the parents' fault" I get uneasy.

First, I am curious about the "credentials" of any and all people who have ever made such a comment. Are you a parent yourself? What background or experience do you have in caring for your own children (babysitting, or children relatives aside)?

Secondly, I would like to understand why the the onus lies "strictly" on the parent. Are game developers not involved in either legal or ethical ways? Are, then, video games supposed to illustrate the "great failure of American parents"? Or are the "problem parents" only a few bad apples?

-Anonymous-

P.S. Because I am Anonymous, I am looking forward to posts from Jabrwock, Otaku-Man and Co. (concise and/or informative) and not sothasil, Andrew, or Jack (when will you guys up the fuck shut?). Thanks :)

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	Re: Dumping it on the parents. tsknf 2005-10-17 06:50 pm UTC (link)
	3 things. 1. Parents should take the responisbility to look at what their kids want them to buy. 2. Parents should have the responsibility to impose limits on their kids, and to research what their kids are doing. 3. Parents need to learn to say "no". Games companies can't do any of this. Not all parents are weak or ignorant,m but many are, and that's the problem. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Re: Dumping it on the parents. toshirotzu 2005-10-17 06:56 pm UTC (link)
	Maybe it will be easier for you to come to terms with if you accept the fact that alot of people shouldn't be parents in the first place. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	Re: Dumping it on the parents. andrew_eisen 2005-10-17 08:20 pm UTC (link)
	While not all of us are parents, all of us have or had parents and are or have been children and are thus qualified to comment on parental responsibilities and techniques. Game developers are not responsible for anyone’s children but their own. Andrew Eisen (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Re: Dumping it on the parents. lowe0 [deadjournal] 2005-10-18 12:39 am UTC (link)
	So don't become a parent. How hard is it for people to look at themselves, realize they have neither the capacity nor the desire to care for a child, and get a vasectomy? (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Go figure tsknf 2005-10-17 07:33 pm UTC (link)
	Wow, all this topic is is about Dvae having posted oictures of the letters themselves and yet this discussion is already 40+ comments long, and gone completely off-topic. I think some things should not be whipped like a dead horse. Comment closed. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	Re: Go figure jabrwock 2005-10-17 07:39 pm UTC (link)
	Wow, all this topic is is about Dvae having posted oictures of the letters themselves and yet this discussion is already 40+ comments long, and gone completely off-topic. Well, other than Jack claiming the letter wasn't written by Walsh, this isn't really that big a story. So, being bored, I'm discussing other issues until Dennis posts some more goodies. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Jack is an even bigger asshole now...look at this aresef 2005-10-17 08:58 pm UTC (link)
	http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000743063662/ (Reply to this) (Thread)

	Re: Jack is an even bigger asshole now...look at this jabrwock 2005-10-17 09:07 pm UTC (link)
	Others here have noted this too. They've also noted that Penny-Arcade, disgusted at his retraction of the funds he promised to charity, have donated $10,000 of their own money to the ESA Foundation in Jack's name. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)

	Bwhaha (Anonymous) 2005-10-17 09:29 pm UTC (link)
	"Because, I have learned, Dave Walsh didn't even write it." I think the sinister implication is clear.. Mr. Walsh has.... A secratary... ROFL... (Reply to this) (Thread)

	Re: Bwhaha teh_anonymous 2005-10-17 09:50 pm UTC (link)
	Que Penny Arcade comic regarding R*'s handling of HC: "IT WAS TEH HAX0RZ!!1" (Reply to this) (Parent)

	zipper_blues 2005-10-18 01:46 am UTC (link)
	different reasons, same fun (Reply to this)

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